Tracy is not Clutch. If he were he would've played his a$$ of and shoot his arms off and dropped dead in a pool of sweat and blood trying to win this thing. Are there a dozen excuses for us not to win that are quite valid? Yes. Is "Tracy is Clutch" one of them ? Nope.
That's fair enough but if this team wants to pay him that much money, why should he refuse it? One reason I think would be if KG had taken a paycut in Minnesota, they might have been able to snatch some talent. Maybe if T-Mac shaves off a few million, we can pick up a legit star. However there are many contracts out there that are comparatively worse than T-Mac's.
People seem to think points in the 4th quarter are somehow worth more. Would you guys be happier if TMac paced himself and didn't play as hard in the first half so he could "demand the ball and go down fighting" in the 4th quarter while the team was down 20 points?
No. People seem to think that the "tired" excuse is b.s. and that 3/4 worth of star player basketball is enough to make excuses for his disappearing WHEN IT MATTERS MOST.
not going to read through this whole thread. i dont know what game the thread starter was watching. tracy played his heart out tonight. he got tired from all the minutes and having multiple j*zz defenders thrown at him during the 4th. its sad to say this but the j*zz are a mentally TOUGH team. when we were throwing the kitchen sink at them, they didnt flinch. id love for the rockets to make a come back but i dont think its happening. this series may have been a different story if we had all our player but life is unfair sometimes.
make layups. make free throws. look for contact at the rim rather than avoid it. had these happened, we would be up 2-0. landry hasn't been exploding to the basket since his injury. i hope he regains his form next season, otherwise he's just another average player.
McGrady time and time again doesnt give off great vibes of "fighting" through anything, even if he does play harder than anyone else. When Deron Williams was asked about his hurt tailbone he responded with a "it hurts a little but oh well who cares" type of response. Which is what you want to hear. McGrady would have had a winced expression, probably sighed a little and looked down...as though he's facing offseason open heart surgery. (on the same note McGrady would have been CRUCIFIED WORSE if he EVER was seen headed toward the locker room during a playoff game. the guy can't get a break even if its deserved)
Tired? The second game in the first round and he's tired? No wonder why this guy has never made it out of the first round. Can you imagine how tired he'd be if he had to play deep into the playoffs. I love how other players play just as hard as him and don't complain of being tired.
Preach on preacher....the fact that our guys lean away from contact is maddening....GO TO THEM.... DD
You sure are blind and sure do have a really bad memory. Do you know his stats in the Dallas playoff series? Did you know his numbers when Yao went out last year? Do you know our win-loss record before he came to Houston? Heck do you know our win-loss record WITHOUT him in the team? The only area he failed is getting us past round 1, but hey so did Yao even though TMac individually performed great in the playoffs.
he's tired within a game, not if he goes deep. he was asked to do everything, including doing rafer's and battier's job. kobe had 1 rebound and 0 assist going in to the 4th in game one, not to mentioned his horrible offensive display. everyone tries hard dude. tmac had to try three times as hard b/c he was doing 2-3 people's job at the same time.
Well maybe its because they are NOT carrying the team alone as TMac is. Its people like you who say how hard Ginobli plays compared to TMac, completely ignoring the fact that Ginobli ONLY averages 30 mins a game for his team. Whereas TMac is THE friggin team, all by himself. He carried everything for us last night after getting doubled and tripled ALL night.
i wonder 5 years from now if you're gonna say the same, lol. your mind stays with what happened in the past instead of now. i know all the numbers you were talking about. what do they have to do with mcgrady's decline in physical ability and drop in production NOW? many were saying not to worry because he's always had higher #'s in the playoffs. guess what? ain't seeing it. just realize and accept he is NOT what he once WAS.
huh read the context of what I replied to then talk. Not seeing it? 23pt 13 rbs 9 assts is not high?? LMAO... you are equally blind.,, Regardless, this year we went 12-0 without Yao, could you seriously say we would have had the same record at the end of the season without TMac? If not, then even with all the injuries and declining ability you claim, proves that at least he is the most important player we have. He is our MVP no doubt. Not even close.
I agree, TMAC always seems to be tired for a big game. There is always some excuse on why he doesn't perform in the 4th quarter. Hey TMAC, watch TNT's pregame show, Barkley's quote: "TMAC needs to take over." He will never win a championship! But it's true what they say, not everybody has a heart or desire to be a champion!
what was worse was reading TMACs comments after the game...i was tired!!!....i feel like ive never had my back against the wall before this!!!! that guy needs a PR person to speak for him....
He really is bad at being so open with his thoughts.....it gives other players an advantage.....sort of like poker... DD
I believe the rockets can do well with Yao in the middle, but they need to get a strong complimentary Power Forward, somebody like an Otis Thorpe, but I agree TMAC needs to go!
10-0 in the streak w/o yao. first, get your facts str8. and mcgrady's production wasn't up in yao's absence like it was in prior years. doesn't that tell you something? injuries or what not, it doesn't change the reality that he's declining. and yao or no yao (what does this thread have to do with yao anyways?), the mcgrady we have now is not enough to carry a team. not even to the extent that he carried those orlando teams. i don't think there's any good argument against that. btw, his performance last night, though excellent, is not something that i'd call dominant. how he's played so far in the p/o is by and large fine with me (enough or not). but what he's said after the games, like the "i'm tired" comment, bothers me like always. assuming he's being honest, what he says should reflect what he thinks. and that is where the issue is to a lot of people incl. myself. his problem has always been mentalilty. it's just this year the porblem is amplified along with his physical decline. if you can't see that, then what can i say?
Maybe if Tmac stop talking about "imposing my will in the 4th quarter", people will stop placing such high demand on him too?
