Again, who makes the plays for our offens?. rafer bring the ball up, but who from there is the primary decision maker?. you got no reply.
tell that to jonathan Feigen. http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/07/...y_schedule.html hey jonathan, Do you think Tracy McGrady is a point forward? In My Opinion he isn't. But do you think he is? (No, I consider him a basketball player that happens to be an excellent passer. He played most of last season as a guard, but can be considered a small forward. Either way, I don't think he needs to be defined as a point-something because he passes well. -- Jonathan) Posted by: TMacFan at July 31, 2007 06:02 PM Jonathan, Do you consider Mcgrady a point forward? I like to hear your opinion because you have a lot of knowledge. (I would not so narrowly define him. He is a guard or forward who happens to be an outstanding passer. I don't feel anyone needs to be called a point-something because he passes well. -- Jonathan) Posted by: Daddy at July 31, 2007 03:25 PM just to shut you up.
Cant you makeup you're own mind. again Answer the question, After rafer brings the ball up, who does he give the ball to make all the plays. who makes all he decision making from there?. look, you're debating skills are as small as you're pea sized brain.
who are you first of all. and just because its in his hands after alston gives it to him doesn't mean hes a point forward. by the way explain the jonathan feigen thing then.
OH MY LORD. he does all the decision making and the plays for us and he isnt the the point forward?. all rafer does is bing the ball up. from there tracy does all the decision making and plays. he is a point forward. i'm donr with you.
another person who finds it it an insult if McGrady isn't a point forward. Rafer is the primary ball-handler. Pippen, Hill and all the point forwards were the team's primary ball-handler.
Pimary ball handler?,. all he does is bring the ball and from there tracy does it all in terms of making plays and decision making. tracy dominates the ball for 75% of our possesions. he does all the decsion making and plays in our half court.
Primary ball-handlers bring the ball up. I'm done now. you didn't even answer the question on Feigen, and my guess is that your on denial. So i'm done with you till you answer.
IT was Gorge KARL the coach of the denver nuggets who called tracy the second BEST PLAYMAKER IN THE GAME AFTER STEVE NASH .
There are a lot of playmakers that are shooting guards and other then point guards. Paul Pierce Josh Howard Tayshaun Prince Even Dirk is a playmaker and Yao.
erm...I have to say you're wrong there. If you watched the playoffs at all (I was at every home game except game 5) just for example, you would know that tracy is the primary and (in jeff's system) basically only facilitator of the offense. rafer brought the ball up...and from there tracy had the ball at least 80% of the time with very few exceptions. I'm not saying he's a point forward or whatever silly term you want to attach to it, but he was the primary ball-handler.
true, but Rafer was more of the primary ball-handler. T-Mac was the main playmaker i agree on that. McGrady played ROLES of a point forward.
Who does all the playmaking in our half. who is the primary ball handler in our half who does the playmaking and decision making. who had 16 assists against utah. who avge 10 assists in the playoffs. who did gorge karl call the 2nd best playmaker after steve nash?. all rafer does is bring the ball up. but from there, it's Tracy who does all the decision making.
And this is why you are both rookies, you are arguing about the same thing in two darn threads. Take it off list if you can't make intelligent comments instead of just, no you prove it, no you prove it. Freaking annoying. Tmac is a forward who can create for himself and others. Rafer is a point guard who can dribble the ball and pass but can't shoot. Neither one is a point forward. Argument over.
no answer on feigen still? and steve nash averaged 10 assists. Tracy McGrady averaged 7. If your gonna call McGrady a point forward call Pierce, Iggy, Larry Bird and M.J Point fowards. Thats the last thing i'm gonna say till you answer the Feigen question.
You guys need to distinguish between two important roles: (1) the "point" or set up guy (2) the primary playmaker McGrady obviously filled the second role for us, but that doesn't make the first role irrelevant. If that was the case, our offense would not have stagnated so much with Luther Head (or Lucas) playing PG instead of Rafer Alston. Rafer did a lot more than simply bringing the ball up the floor and shooting three pointers.
If he played the roles and played it well? then why cant he be labeled a point forward?. it's not me, but everyone here is saying you're wrong.
to add more reasons why tracy mcgrady is not a point forward. The Rockets' offense is basically Yao in the post or T-Mac creating on the wing. They're not running that many plays for anyone else, which is what you'd expect from a team with a point forward. It's not that he doesn't have the skills; the Rockets just don't have the offense or the personnel to have a point forward. my buddy on ESPN wrote this.
