I bet TMac would laugh his ass off and tell all his friends that the OP is delusional if he read this thread.
No doubt LeBron is one of the best. But to call TMac an all time loser is pretty harsh and uncalled for. TMac definitely had his epic moments and was really talented, just not driven enough.
He hates Tmac ... I can understand but not relate... Lebron was watching Tmac when he was growing up, he is more durable and I think he looked into Tmac's playbook when he was young Everything is connected..... Kobe copied Mike's moves, Tracy also looked up to Jordan, Yao studied Hakeem Some tend to have better careers and make more out of their talents than others
You are pretty much describing why he was a loser. Talented but could not come out from first round in 7 tries. You are right, that is pretty epic, which is what makes him so special.
you enjoy making up stuff don't you? I swear McGrady fans make up fantasy out of thin air. LeBron was a well known Jordan fan, that's why he wore 23 in his early years.
I posted a clip of where Dream and Rudy T are in a restaurant . Dream thanked Rudy for coaching him and Rudy said it was important that your coach and best player have a great relationship. Dream and Rudy Jordan and Phil Duncan and Pop Magic and Riley Isiah and Daley Clyde and Rick Adelman Tracy didn't have any good relationship with his coaches, he was good at getting the fired, as Doc and JVG
TMac didn't have that drive to be combined with his god-given talent, to make him a winner. But that's how he is, you can't change a person. To make better use of his gift, Magic or Rocket could have put some kind of mentor or veteran leader on the bench. Your best player doesn't have to be your leader. Sam Cassell with Wolves, Andre Miller with Nuggets, come to mind. Noah is probably a better leader than Rose; Tyson was obviously a much better vocal leader than Dirk; MWP was better than Yao. The list goes on and on. TMac has never been a leader, that's what we all can agree on. But who was that leader on his teams? Grant Hill collected huge paychecks without leading or playing. Yao was mentally tougher but not a vocal leader. TMac was "supposed" to lead in every category (except for rebounding), including mental toughness. But he couldn't do it, not that he didn't want to. It's getting old that we blame every misfortune of Rockets during his tenor on him, while he gave everything on the court (exclude last year's drama). Did the organization do enough to HELP him HELP Rockets go further? It doesn't have to be a blame game. It's not like if you don't want to blame Les, you have to blame JVG; if you don't want to blame Yao, you have to throw SF3 or TMac under the bus; if you don't want to blame your GM, you have to crucify all of your players. Well, fans will never blame themselves for sure. TMac is just too easy of a target, but it's been way overboard. Without going through the thread, I knew Tinman must have accounted for about 20% of total posts. Let's remember good moments of past members and move on.
Kobe and PJ say hi. People are different. There are hundreds of formulas leading to success. All kinds of facets work for or against each other, and success is just a combination of everything. Luck is a big part of that too. Let's stop simplifying everything in basketball - because of this or that he could never win a ring blah blah. Utah Jazz (as much as I hate mailman for a passion) did a great job to build a consistent winning team. You can throw in all the catchy words for leadership, desire, determination, relationship, but no matter how much more they do, they would never have passed that Bulls team.
Lebron is better than tmac. That is the truth by statistics, individual accomplishments, team accomplishments and sprite commercials. Admit defeat tmac fans. As more of the stars you believe were not on his level surpass tmac, the more history will push him toward the house of irrelevance
Utah at least made to the finals , which is expected if your stars are truly great. Tmac led no team past the first round. It's not even about the ring. Tmac couldn't lead a team out of the shire. He's not even bilbo
Hard to win the series against Dallas in 2005 when the refs had already decided that they wanted Dallas to win and when Mike Finley was allowed to grab a rebound with both feet out of bounds.
The jury sees evidence that tmac never led the rockets past the first round and never was top 3 in mvp voting. Evidence shows harden leading the rockets to the WCF and was runner up in mvp. Cased closed. The jury demands the arrest and life in psychiatric facility for 50 years for even thinking that tmac was ever on LeBron's level.
