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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DeAleck, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. Furious Jam

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    Is it really the minutes? If he played 35 a night instead of 40, would that have really prevented this? Would it even have delayed it? Who can say?

    What I want to know is can the probably be permanently (or near permanently) corrected with rest and/or surgery. Because if there's a fix, TMac needs to have it fixed now. This season is a lost cause already.
     
  2. barryxzz

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    I recall in one of the interviews on Chron JVG did mention this issue. I think he said he couldn't take Tmac out for too long because Tmac needs to keep his rythm, or something like that. Guess it has to be changed now.
     
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    Kind of a stuck situation for JVG. He doesnt know how to win games w/o tmac because he is a terrible coach on offense, infact a horrible coach. He has to play TMac all game to have any winning hope. Another problem is inuries and that *** named Bowen. He is really the only guy who can play SF on a already short(hieght wise) lineup.


    No updates on the injury yet? So all we know is that it is not as severe as the previous one.
     
  4. russian88

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    JVG = Dusty Baker.
     
  5. barryxzz

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    This is uncalled for. Bowen has given everything he has. He is never supposed to play major minutes in the first place. Given his salary, he is doing real good.

    It is one thing to criticize a player for lack of offensive skills, and it is totally different to disrespect a hardworking professional.
     
  6. GotGame15

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    it happened on a routine jumper....is it possible that he could have prevented it if he had stretched his back better?? Or do back spasms happen whenever they want regardless of the amount of stretching?? any doctorss in the housee....
     
  7. daoshi

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    First of all, he didn't hurt his back on the jump shot, he hurt his back after the shot when he was back pedaling. Ironically, walking backwards is one of the things the Doctors usually ask the patients to do to loose up the back muscle!

    Second, this injury has nothing to do with TMac's body age in the league. Though older people tend to get it more frequently, but I know plenty of athletes who have it in their early 20s.

    Finally, since it's clear this is just a server back spasm, it means TMac should be able to play today, or tomorrow if they give some shots. Resting him will not help much because there is no telling when it will get completely loose. In most cases, teams always keep the injuried athletes on some kinds of equipment to keep them loose prior to & during the game, only time will heal it, playing or rest doesn't make much difference.
     
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    just my 2 cents but after watching most every rocket game last night i said to my when it was 6-0 and tmac had just made a layup i believe that when he was away from the ball he looked a step slow, im guessing tmac went into the game a little shaky. But did anyone else notice that or go back and watch it Tmac man if you were playing with a bad back at the beginning your the man but dude take it easy get healthy this season has already been hard enough to watch please tmac dont make it more painful...and to Jon barry who came on the radio today get off your ass play some ball man, i dont think a calf injury keeps on going i think jon barry sees a sinking ship and doesnt think he "himself" can help. But hey Barry this team needs someone who can shoot because tmac cant do itall obviously and wesley has been streaky at best this year same with head. Barry take some meds and get off the court. and to DA this guy needs to play and get off his fake injury bs this guys problem was that he always got injured.oh well at least he isnt making mo tay bucks for us cuz if the trade went down last year he would be getting "Paid".
     
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    I'm neither privy to the med report nor a doctor but based on what I saw, T-Mac did one of his patented, "let's bend over 90 degrees with the ball in hand before pulling up for the big jumper." When T-Mac shoots, he "straightens" his back. Going from the dribble position to the shooting position is, IMHO what did him in. That takes a huge toll on the back. It's simple physics. Other players tend to dribble with less of a lurch and shoot with less backbone extension. At least, that is what I see and have seen for however long T-mac's been in this league. Great shooters tend to have that straightening of the back. But where T-Mac goes for those quick, sharp pull ups, boy that's got to be a doozy on the back.

    Daoshi, I need only refer you to the post-game and Feigen quotes coming out of T-Mac's mouth. If you can't "hear" the old man in T-Mac then I can't help you here. T-Mac has had to battle back spasms BECAUSE of the years in the league and the demands placed on his body. Even lesser players like Barkely, Kenny, Magic, and Garnett in commenting on life in the NBA noted that you're almost always playing with some kinks and pains here adn there. With T-Mac, he's arguably one of the hardest working players out there and of course winning a scoring title speaks volumes about how many shots he's hoisting out there. Perhaps the instance of back spasms is not age specific but you have got to be kidding yourself if you think T-Mac's condition has nothing to do with his cumulative yeras in the league.

    Just b/c he's given the green light doesn't mean that JVG isn't doing something wrong. Whether it be T-Mac's minutes or his shot selection or his total number of shot attempts, the question that I have is: what will JVG do to prevent this/or minimize the chances of this happenning again? It would be foolhardy to just go back to the old ways and expect T-Mac to be superman. He Isn't!!!! And in T-Mac's case, these recurring and crippling back spasms are about as close to a "chronic" condition as can be - which is not easily fixable if at all by surgery.

    Not to press the panic button but when one thinks of chronic conditions, consider the following names and their fight through pain.

    1. Bernard King - knee
    2. Patrick Ewing - back
    3. Larry Johnson - back
    4. John Starks - pulled testacle
    5. Rik Smits - feet
    6. Shaq - knee


    My two cent reply.

    theSAGE
     
  11. zksb09

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    Actually the article says he will miss at least 2 games.
     
  12. Houston22

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    Hi guys.

    I am from Slovenia, Europe and I heard of some bad experience with back spasms. There was a guy that played in Slovenia pro basketball and it seems to me that he has much similar body construction to Tmac's (of course he wasn't as talented as him) and his career went from very promising to pourous because of that. But something I can tell you for sure is that when you nurse an injury it doesn't go away. That's what I think TMac was talking about (about his body getting old). You can have the best doctors in the world, but that doesn't matter. You can sit the whole year and it might doesn't matter as well. Things are so strange with injuries. I've heard so many stories and I'am the part of one (achilles tendonitis) that TMac's problem just doesn't give me any hope. Still.. 1000 people, 1000 different stories. I just hope TMac's story will be different.

    What I wanted to say was this:
    It might not help TMAc to sit the rest of the season. It might not help him to sit two years. He must keep his body warm and play the first time his doctors alow him to.
     
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    No structural damage, but McGrady will miss two games
    Jan. 9, 2006
    CBS SportsLine.com wire reports



    HOUSTON -- Houston Rockets star Tracy McGrady will miss the next two games and be re-evaluated Friday after a recurrence of back spasms.

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    An MRI test on Monday revealed no structural damage, the Rockets said.

    McGrady grabbed his back and crumpled to the floor Sunday night as the first half ended in the Rockets' 92-90 loss to Denver. He scored 11 points.

    McGrady, who topped 30 points in Houston's previous five games, was lifted onto a stretcher and taken to Memorial Hermann Texas Medical Center.

    The Rockets play at Charlotte on Tuesday and return home to face Sacramento on Wednesday.

    McGrady missed eight games earlier in the season because of back spasms and the Rockets lost them all.

    The Rockets are already missing their other star, Yao Ming, who had surgery last month to remove an infection from his left big toe. Yao is expected to be out up to four more weeks.

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  14. mogrod

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    Y'all want a good scare?

    Go to realgm and look at their heading on the front page. :eek:
     
  15. vcchlw

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    T-Mac Out Two Weeks????

    WTF? :mad: :(
     
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    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38622/20060109/t_mac_out_two_weeks/

    T-Mac Out Two Weeks
    9th January, 2006 - 6:51 pm

    ESPN - Houston Rockets star Tracy McGrady will miss the next two games and be re-evaluated Friday after a recurrence of the back spasms that have bothered him this season.

    McGrady grabbed his back and crumpled to the floor Sunday night as the first half ended in the Rockets' 92-90 loss to Denver. He scored 11 points in the first half.

    McGrady, who topped 30 points in Houston's previous five games, was lifted onto a stretcher and taken to Memorial Hermann Texas Medical Center. An MRI early Monday revealed no structural damage, the Rockets said.

    The Rockets play at Charlotte on Tuesday and return home to face Sacramento on Wednesday.

    McGrady missed eight games earlier in the season because of back spasms and the Rockets lost them all.

    The Rockets are already missing their other star, Yao Ming, who had surgery last month to remove an infection from his left big toe. Yao is expected to be out at least 3-4 more weeks.
     
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    Yea, I think the heading is a mess up.

    EDIT: They fixed it now
     
    #158 mogrod, Jan 9, 2006
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    Give Tmac a BREAK!!

    I dont know about you guys but i would want Tmac to sit for the rest of the season its not even about going to playoffs anymore its about his health i mean after seeing him on the floor screaming in pain we should be worried about him not as a fan but as a person and even if tmac sits for rest of the season it'll be healthy for him and the Rockets next season

    remember the only way he can feel secure about his back spasm is by resting

    Im a HUGE Tmac fan i cant see him hurt like this :(
     
  20. m004378

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    Back spasm is not a diagnosis, it is a symptoms of an underlying illness.Origins of back spasms are diverse. they are often a response to an injury or inflammation of the spinal region. In many cases, the muscles of the back themselves are injured, but the spine itself, including the thin cartilaginous discs between the spinal vertebrae and the ligaments which connect the vertebrae, may also be the source of the difficulty.
    I am more interested in the underlying condition of Tmac. I hope he simply has inflammation of the lower back mauscles, and his spines/discs are spared of of the injury.
     

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