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Tmac deserves props

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Air Langhi, May 2, 2008.

  1. Rockza

    Rockza Rookie

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    You just made my point... TMac played great MOST of the game in every single losses we had. It is the other Rockets players who sucked MOST of the game, not TMac. So give credit where credit is due.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    i'm just pointiing out examples where he has a better team. like i said, in a playoff game, kobe put up 5-19 through 3 quarters with 1 rebound and 0 assist and his team is up 19 POINTS.

    if that's not a sign of a great supporting cast around him, i don't know what is?

    kobe was phenomenal in game 1 v. utah through 3 quarters (just like tmac was in game 2 v. utah). but both ended up struggling badly down in the 4th quarter b/c like stu scott of ESPN said, kobe got tired. tmac was too.

    i never said tmac was better.
     
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    like i said, i was referring to game 1 v. denver as a way to show how the lakers team as a whole is great. kobe has A TON of help.
     
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    exactly. but i think this will make us a better team b/c i'm sure adelman knew what the jazz were going to do to tmac and he wanted his role players to step up. unfortunately, they didn't. i'm sure brooks and others will step up and make those shots next yr.

    remember, this was the first playoff series for most of our young guys.
     
  5. kwongadong

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    bobby jackson went 2-13 or something like that...that's why we lost the game.

    i am a rafer hater, but i'm surprised by the effect he has on our offense.

    he isn't a consistent shooter, but he controls the tempo very well.

    bj/brooks are best off the bench - scorers who can change the tempo if things aren't gong well.
     
  6. s3ts

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    agreed.

    McGrady, your time will come...
     
  7. koopa

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    I think rockets should trade tmac for whatever of these legitimate reasons.1) He's a first round cursed player (0-7). 2) He 2) Too many excuses for 7 straight seasons. 3) if he cared so much he'd give up some of his salary to free up salary cap. 4) he's just not a playoff player and is getting old..5) he occassionally chokes at 4th quarters and with the money he's making he's just not good enough in comparison to the other stars in the league who are making as much or sightly lesser than him. You can disagree with one of it or more but it's just my opinion. I'm not saying that Yao ming can win it but it just needs a change because yao and tmac and scrubs just won't work. THe main thing to have is have a great point guard..every great team has one
     
  8. pmac

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    Chamillionaire is a clutchfan!?!

    ...and he wants to trade Tmac.
     
  9. deeperblue

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    You just can't read, man. Or you just don't understand any logic under the big picture. I was not complaining him playing like crap the whole game.

    If you don't understand other's post, please don't bother to reply.

     
  10. deeperblue

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    Then please check the #s.

    Scola played much better overral, in most categories. Altson is slightly better in 2pt %, 3pt % and pts. Battier is kind of the same stats wise, slightly better in a few areas, slight worse in a few areas. But I have watched most of the series. Battier played with huge intensity, everywhere defensively. Great contribution from him.

    T-Mac's contribution to this team in the serious is no doubt the largest,
    thanks to his great talent. But there is something he can definitly improve on, with some dedication, and that's his FT. There is no excuse for that.

    What I admire most are those who work hard, not those who has the most talent.


     
  11. flamingdts

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    If you got nothing good to say about what T-mac did in the playoffs, STFU.
     
  12. sook

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    Are you kidding me? Scola hurt us BAD the last game, wait were we watching the same game. He was good offensively but defensively...oh boy. Okur ate his lunch, Scola committed the worst fouls and there was this one play in the 1st half were rafer turned the ball over twice and they converted, then scola is passing it in and he just throws out of bounds and Korver hits a 3..thus leading us to a 19 pt defecit which Tracy pretty much single handedly got us out of :rolleyes:
     
  13. Rockza

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    Wait he is the guy who said Yao is mentally stronger than TMac and thus more of a superstar than TMac. Not that I have anything against Yao but mentally Yao has not proven anything yet over TMac. But you know what deeperblue is now right? A Tmac hater and Yao OF... man I don't see TMac fans going around dissing Yao like that.
     
  14. deeperblue

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    Now I understand, you really can't read, and don't even have a manner.

     
  15. deeperblue

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    T-Mac missed his last shot in the winning game (game 3) with about 8 sec on shot clock, and missed badly (air ball, and the ball is about 1 ft away from the basket). If it is not Landry that saved the situation, Rockets could be forced a OT, and who knows what would happend after that. Worse case would be a swept following that. Or Rocket could have won the OT and the series result could be still like that.

    EVERY Player has some bad plays. It is no point to use one or two single play to blame a player, unless that type of play is so typical of a player.



     
  16. deeperblue

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    Yes, I definitly think Yao is mentally stronger than T-Mac. Skill wise, T-Mac is better. Up to today in their career, T-Mac has achieved more than Yao. But neither of them has passed 1st round.

    But T-Mas is definitly going down, going down fast. Yao? Maybe he has more room on up side, or maybe he will stay the same for a couple of years, or maybe he will start going down as well. But for next 3-4 years, I expect Yao has a better future. Well, his last injury is a bad sign, though.

    I respect one who works harder more than one who has more talent. By the same logic, I respect Arenas more than T-Mac. But do I think overral contribution, is Arenas better than T-Mac now? Even with an injurred T-Mac like today, I would say T-Mac is better than Arenas.

    T-Mac should at least improve his FT to show he still cares everything about his games.


     
  17. wekko368

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    At the VERY least, Yao has shown he has a much better work ethic than Tmac.
     
  18. barryxzz

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    I support Rockets because of Yao. He definately has good work ethic. But I think he overworked himself. Tmac obviously has a fragile body, he would have broken down much faster if he works as much as Yao did. Plus, he tried to bulk up in the summer once and we all knew what happened. His body is just fragile.
     
  19. SuperMarioBro

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    I just realized that McGrady improved statistically in the playoffs in almost EVERY single major statistical category (again). And most of them were very significant improvements, too.

    He improved in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, and FG%.

    ... We're going to get this monkey off his back very soon... and we're going to do it as we take it all. :cool:
     
  20. pmac

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    very true...

    It's very easy to overwork a 7-5 frame and Tmac is as fragile as they come. I just think the "Yao has a great work ethic" comment is getting a little old. It doesn't really say anything about his talent, love for the game or superstar status either. I assure you there are players who work just as hard, if not more, on their game than Yao that aren't even in the league.
     

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