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Tmac Benched (UPDATE - his lower back stiffened up on him)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jVgOwnsYou, Apr 4, 2007.

  1. McGradySNKT

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    Yes Mcgrady didnt have coaching beyond Doc the loser Rivers who never coached beyond give the ball to tmac and move out of the way. No he wasnt fully matured in 04-05 but he was the main catalyst for the team. He did everything yet.. ah never mind. The team lost and thats all that matters. I dont care to defend him because Im not here for that.

    I brought up Kobe the quitter in game 7 because you continue to reference killer instinct. Yet you ignore him quitting on his team in game 7 of a playoff game.

    Then you reference his fire, which ironically was non existant when it should've been there.

    Then you go on about his perfomance should be appreciated when he ignored his teammates, and shooting a terrible 19-44 and a loss is more respectable than 30/10 and a win. That's very backwards.


    Talent, yes the lakers have some good talent. They play better without Kobe than this Rockets team does without Tmac.

    Smush knows he's a backup, but Rafer doesn't. Smush doesn't take more shots than Kobe does, but Rafer will brick em all he wants.

    Lets not forget Luke Walton and Lamar Odom who help Kobe out a great deal while you convieniently forget to mention their names as far as talent is concerned.

    They can create their own shot, and they don't need Kobe to create everything for them including layups. Can you say that about this Rockets team?
     
  2. Outlier

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    Killer instinct? Is that all he has on T-Mac? Cause T-Mac is better in everything else.
     
  3. McGradySNKT

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    We've seen Shaq make it to the finals with 2 other teams that Kobe was not on. No doubt 02-03 Mcgrady would've easily done the same with a dominant Shaq in his prime, whom which Yao Ming cannot compare to.

    You can pick Kobe with the way he's playing now, they're another 1st round outer because chucking shots no matter what is the last thing that will win them games in the playoffs.
     
  4. McGradySNKT

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    Well for a fact, he sure doesn't have more W's, MVP's or 1st round advances as the leader of his own team.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    SCOOOOOOBBBBYYY DOOOOOBBBYYYY DOOOOOOOO !!!!!!


    Now about that Scooby snack !!

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  6. superpro

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    Are you sure we can still put those two names together this year?

    I doubt about it. Personally, I would love to have Kobe over TRACY in any playoff series. Kobe has that desire and fire to beat his opponents. TRACY doesn't.
     
  7. superpro

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    Put Dwade onto any team, it's a playoff team. Can we say same thing about Tracy?

    On the other side, if we put Dwade together with a less dominant Yao, it's very likely going to generate same results as Shaq if not better.
     
  8. youyou

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    you based this argument on what? your imagination?
    it takes a lot than just scoring to get a ring. even at age 35, shaq is doing a lot more than yao to his team. just check the winning rate when their sg are out for injuries.
    if yao is really as great as many ppl hope he is, why complain so much about players around him? shaq brought 3 teams he played for to nba finals, won titles for 2 of them, with totally different players around him.
    at this point, before yao can ever pass the first round, i don't think it is appropriate to compare him with shaq, maybe the greatest center in whole nba history.
     
  9. Icehouse

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    Wade solo barely had the Heat in the playoffs in the East, so I doubt Wade solo would make the playoffs in the West....
     
  10. houst-mac

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    If u put Kobe to T-Mac's place on this team i dont think it will make the Rockets any better, actually i think we wuold be worse with Bryant on our team. He doesn't have the same playmaking-ability that Tracy has. Even though Tracy doesn't score as much points that Kobe scores , he's helping Houston to win more games. If u put Kobe on this team he wuold probably score a lot of points but we wuoldn't be as good team as we are right now. Kobe just want's to break records not win games as McGrady does. T-Mac is the best player u can have in this kind of team, he's, unselfish, cares only about winning and knows the importance of defense. (We'll sometimes he makes bad decisions but don't we all do??)
    We all know that Tracy McGrady is our guy
     
  11. demon77

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    I would rather T-mac score more like back in 04 then to be a playmaker. (also, then rafer won't be shooting so much 3!)
     
  12. sammy

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    looks like the haters are out. someone should put some of these quotes (by zboy, superpro, etc) so they cant jump on the TMac bandwagon once the playoffs start.
     
  13. doublehh03

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    uh what's our record w/o yao? i think we would still have a 5th seed if u extrapolate that to a whole season IN THE WEST.

    what was the heat's record w/o shaq? barely hanging on the 8th seed. and they're playing better now WITHOUT WADE.

    wade hasn't shown he can carry a team single-handedly brother. but again, b/c he won WITH SHAQ, he gets a pass for not helping the heat win w/o shaq earlier in the season.

    and where were u when tmac was in orlando? :rolleyes:
     
  14. JEREMYMEEGAN

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    I HOPE HES OKAY :?
     
  15. superpro

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    Name labeling is so history nowadays. Grow up, kid.
     
  16. Zboy

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    If you do intend to label people, the least you can do is do some research first. Talk about being lazy!!! :eek:

    You think I am a Tracy hater? HA!! Read the poll and what I have to say about how Tracy will perform in the playoffs!

    I will say it as I see it. You may not like it or even agree with it. And your labeling attempt is certainly not going to change that either. ;)
     
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  17. tang0

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    Yao can never be like Shaq. Period.

    I am sick of seeing him putting up layups under the basket instead of slamming it in to stamp his authority. And don't tell me it is because he is Chinese and won't humiliate his opponents. Hell, he is being humiliated by midgets of this league.

    When in Rome , do as the Romans do!!!!!!
     
  18. doublehh03

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    again, no one is shaq. at this stage, if shaq was healthy and motivated, he would still be the best center in the L. he's not as motivated as yao right now.

    but yao is great for what he is. he's superbly skilled and he can do things shaq can't. but i just wish yao was more mobile, better stamina, and a lil more athletic. we can do SO MUCH MORE offensively if that's the case.
     
  19. ShadyMcGrady

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    Wade barely held the Heat together. Didn't they play less than .500 ball without Shaq? He had them in 8th seed for a while I believe.

    What happened to the Rockets without Yao? 20-12, right? And that's through arguably the toughest stretch of our season, with a slight breakdown towards the end due to fatigue from veterans and teams finally figuring us out. Without Yao, that's pretty good.

    A team with Wade might not be a playoff team, but a team with T-Mac would be. T-Mac has proved that 3/4 times in Orlando and he proved it when Yao went down.
     
  20. doublehh03

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    exactly. winning just gives guys like wade a pass. tmac hasn't won in the playoffs so u can make those types of claims and the normal fan wouldn't know/understand.

    anyteam w/ tmac = playoffs. obviously can't go beyond that.

    u can't say that about any other superstar besides kobe (might not make it now)/lebron/iverson.

    wade this yr shows he can't carry a team even in the weak pathetic east. shaq proves he still can.
     

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