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Tmac and Yao were way better than Howard and Harden.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. fubanzai

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    no system, only iso plays

    MHale is way better than JBB, i remember last season, MHale always asked/criticize the team for lacking of rhythm and do not move the ball; no effort.

    This year, barely you heard JBB emphasize this by taking out starters. On the contrary, he relied on Harden so much, then Beas came, he relied on him too...A player like D-MO and JSmith cannot flourish in the current system and any single mistake will take them out....because Harden gets the ball in static position, no screen or moving to get the ball...Offensively, JBB does not have a consistent system and trust his starters...

    Defensively, preferring Brew's gamble and so on is also not wise move at this time...I also felt Howard is wrong-used...

    Better to have a well-established coach having a disciplined system...
    For now, I thought, MHale firing is bad...
     
  2. tinman

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    we missed the playoffs with tmac and yao too

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2006.html

    2005-06 Houston Rockets Roster and Stats
    34-48, Finished 5th in NBA Southwest Division (Schedule and Results)
    Coach: Jeff Van Gundy (34-48)
     
  3. Easy

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    I'd take that team's heart over that of the team who let the 29th offense score 67 points in the second half while supposedly fighting for a playoffs spot.
     
  4. swyyyguy

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    unfortunately, t-mac was hurt and only played 47 games. harden has played 78 games this year.

    facts.
     
  5. tinman

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    why was tmac hurt?

    #undependable
    #nevermadeitpastthefirstround
    #tofssuck
     
  6. rox4lyf

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    Everyone keeps bringing up that Jazz team to make it seem like the Rockets choked. That Jazz team made it all the way to the WCF that year. They destroyed the red hot Warriors team, only to lose to the eventual NBA champions. That team was no slouch. In the playoffs, D Will played like the best PG in the league and Boozer was a man on fire, torching everyone. Boozer was on fire the entire playoffs. Yao wasn't the only one he made look silly. He did the same to Duncan.

    As much as I hate to say, last year's Rockets team would've also lost to that year's Jazz team. They'd use the exact same blueprint: throw multiple physical defenders on Harden (e.g. AK 47, Matt Harpring, and Fisher), foul every possession and force the refs to swallow their whistles thereby nullifying Harden's ability to get to the line, Boozer would absolutely brutalize T Jones like how Blake Griffin did, and Memo Okur would force Dwight out of the paint by stretching the floor. Oh yeah, and DWill would completely humiliate Jet. One more thing, Jerry Sloan would've run circles around McHale and give him a lesson in coaching 101.
     
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    As undependable as Ralph Sampson? Also, the finals are past the first round.

    Try again.
     
  8. WilliamGCash

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    Yao and Mac were still the better duo.

    We had the 2nd longest winning streak in NBA history, and basically saw Yao Ming suffer a career-ending injury in the middle of it.

    Then... we add Artest... and the next season McGrady has his own, basically, career-ending injury.

    Harden has at least been the most durable of 4 of the players..
     
  9. tinman

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    Sampson beat the lakers to get to finals. He steps all over tmac.
     
  10. Dopamine

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    LOL McGrady what a choker in the playoffs, he only averaged 27.6 pts 7.1 Rebs 6.9 Asts per game in the playoffs as a Rocket... my god what a waste of roster spot, simply pathetic, can't believe he didn't average 40 pts 15 Rebs 20 Asts. No wonder people blame this bum for not doing anything in the playoffs while the rest of the team carried his dead weight around... sheesh
     
  11. tinman

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    Tmac is unique because he attracts fans that somehow celebrate failure.

    They makes excuses for things that went wrong and convince themselves that he was able to accomplish things he never accomplished.

    Tmac is a celebration of failure.
     
  12. tinman

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    when Tmac didn't play, Yao and Ron Artest and the Rockets won a playoff series.

    I'm not making this up.

    Tmac was a ball dominate player like Harden.
     
  13. tinman

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    Fisher,

    These idiots worship McGrady. You can't change their minds, they'll make up any excuse to put McGrady in a fantasy scenario where he's the hero.

    And have heart? McGrady's heart wasn't with the Rockets when we beat Portland without him.
     
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    Well say what you want about him.

    Again look at McGrady's first season, he said it was Yao's team and he would be happy to decrease his scoring.

    Indeed his scoring dropped to 25 ppg from 30 ppg in Orlando.

    He made a promise, he was man of his word.

    When was the last time someone said that and did so accordingly?

    Harden? Howard? I doubt that they were serious about it.

    Howard is still not happy with his touches and his D and effort level are showing for it.

    For all the negatives, McGrady did what he had promised, he wasn't after the scoring title in Houston.

    Harden isn't nearly as mature at 26 years old as McGrady was when he joined the Rockets (25 yrs old).
     
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    Failure is only subjective, only temporary
     
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    Yao had the best work ethic among the 4.
     
  17. tinman

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    mcgrady's is permanent. he's not in the league anymore.
     
  18. Yung-T

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    Put Harden and Howard on our mid 2k rosters and see what happens. Always baffles my mind how people only look at playoff success and are completely unable of evaluating rosters. The only reason we still have those idiotic discussions.
     
  19. tinman

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    sorry , only time travel machines happen in make believe and in t-mac fans minds.

    you need to accept there is no what if, there is only is.
     
  20. tinman

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    the answer is first round playoff exits or no playoffs.

    Rockets 2006, they didn't make the playoffs.

    RocketBlood,

    the tmac fans only in a 'what if' world, not a real one.

    they absolutely hate harden for being successful.
     

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