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Tmac and Yao - Slow and slower

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. CheezeyBoy22

    CheezeyBoy22 Member

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    T-Mac is really slow right now. There's no doubt about it. He can't guard anyone. He couldn't keep Jason Kidd infront of him. That's pretty bad.

    Hopefully he can get it together for the second half of the season.
     
  2. ShadyMcGrady

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    How much of it do you think is the knee injury and how much of it is other factors? Laziness, lack of effort, lack of conditioning, etc.

    I know his knee isn't going to magically get better. We have to rest him to see if it makes any progress, which is a solution I agree with. Problem is, we can't rest him until Battier gets back.
     
  3. badgerfan

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    So the Lakers, Jazz and Hornets are solid candidates to beat the Rockets in a 7 game playoff series.

    Do you want the Rox to face any of those teams without home court advantage? The Lakers may be out of reach but the Rockets could have a chance at ending up with a better record than at least NO and Utah.

    This garbage about T-Mac turning it on in the playoffs is worthless. What difference does it make if he kicks ass in the playoffs and the Rockets lose game 7 at the other team's arena? The regular season matters.
     
  4. abc2007

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    You know what, actually, I think it is a good thing for us to lose to the mavs and spurs. If they lose too much, they will tank the season. Now, they still fight and make the WC conference more competitive! As a result, we are still the division leader with 7-5! ;)
     
  5. killer instinct

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    Yao is not lazy but limited by his body.

    Tracy is lazy a lot of the time and limited by his ego.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I agree with you 100%....

    One man works so hard at rehab it might hurt him further and must be restrained from doing it.

    The other gets a minor surgery and does basically zero rehab and hopes that the team can hold together while he works himself in shape.

    Sad but true.

    DD
     
  7. ferrarif1286

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    they lost last night because the "slower" yao is not there.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    He would have helped, I just hope that he gets back to his old self.

    With Yao, I think he will work as hard as it takes.....with Tmac...meh.

    DD
     
  9. Tom Bombadillo

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    Great post Dada.......
     
  10. northeastfan

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    You've summarized it pretty well. Yao knows he's not a very good player so he works extremely hard at being competitive. TMac thinks he's g-d so he hardly lifts a finger.
     
  11. tsc

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    This shows that TMac cares little about this team and his fans. What a pity his fans here still have to defend him despite the fact that he is basically *****ting on them.
     
  12. ShadyMcGrady

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    If you're gong to play hypotheticals...

    What difference does it make if T-Mac's play helps us to get home court advantage and his knee gives out and he can't play in the playoffs and we get run over at home and on the road?
     
  13. badgerfan

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    What excuse does a professional basketball player have for phoning it in for entire games?

    I've got the perfect solution--if he doesn't want to work his ass off during the regular season let him ride the bench until the playoffs come along. If the choice you're offering is T-Mac coasts during the regular season and the Rockets lose in the first round because they don't have home court versus the Rockets losing because the stars are injured I don't see what the big difference is. They both work out to another early first round exit.
     
  14. dandorotik

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    .....111......
     
  15. ShadyMcGrady

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    I have no problem with him sitting out until he's healthy. Until then, or if that ever happens, he's going to be out there playing and hobbling. That's something you have to live with. At least he's out there playing and not asking to sit or giving up. Why do you think he's phoning in games? Because he's moving slow? or because it looks like he's not trying?
     
  16. badgerfan

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    I admit it's a subjective thing, but it sure looks to me like he doesn't give a crap.

    Frankly, if I were the only one I would have assumed it was just me and I wouldn't have posted anything. But it's not just me.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=157265
     
  17. northeastfan

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    I disagree. I think he does care ... just enough to show up but not enough to play hard.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    i agree with this assesment, not with badgerfan who thinks the guy just shows up and does nothing, which is just blind criticism.

    tracy does care or else he would find a reason to sit out. that's why he's playing. but it could also be said he might not go all out b/c he's not fully healthy.
     
  19. badgerfan

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    What the heck are you talking about? The guy you just quoted (Northeastfan) wrote that T-Mac shows up and then coasts through games without trying hard/working.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    i quote him b/c he says tracy does care (while you think he doesn't).

    but i agree when people say he doesn't give 100% effort out there like he does in the playoffs. he just picks his spots...
     

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