Umm, you don't extend a guy at $8MM a year for 3 years just because he's not your worst problem. There are all sorts of other positions that weren't their worst problem either, but you don't just keep overpriced players there for the hell of it.
If the decision was simply that QB wasn't the worst of our problems (but nevertheless a problem), then Carr wouldn't have been extended. You can find a decent FA QB for a whole lot less than that. The decision was "we don't need VY, because we believe we have a good QB and want to address other areas." On that, they were very, very wrong unfortunately.
Titans = traitors. Do you stand with traitors? Texans will get a great draft pick regardless. Houstonians root for the HOUSTON Texans. Others root for the traitors.
No...this team is what 5 years old. They have to earn the HOUSTON name. Until then they can kiss our ***es.
The analogy intended is that when you are drafting regardless of the league you have to consider one thing will this player be great and help win a championship. If you have a rookie of the year center, the #1 pick and you have a choice between a center (Dream) and a 2 guard (Jordan) and no one has ever heard of the 'twin towers' and no one really had any clue how two centers would play together except one could be moved to power forward (at draft time it was risky thinking); and you come to the conclusion that the center is the best player- you do not let 'center is not our most pressing need' enter into the decision. I think it was awesome they went for Dream because he was a Houston icon- phi slama jama- already. Many fans wanted him and we got him. The opposite happened with Drexler. We had McRay and we passed. Before the draft Texans were playing the 'Reggie Bush' games- hoping to lose at the end of the season so we could lock down the #1 overall pick. Not many people expected Young to come out because UT had that rep. But when he declared and the Houston franchise was sitting there with the #1 pick; then I think the decision to extend Carr should have been evaluated based upon the opportunity to draft Young. I think it was in fact and I think they made a use mistake. HUGE Why- because Young's potential was far greater than Carr's potential. From a football stand point I was calling for replacing Carr long before last season's draft- not because he had a bad arm or couldn't make throws, but because it was obvious he had trouble running the offense, making big plays, converting 3 rd downs, poor pocket presence, fumbled alot, showed poor timing on throws, had alot of passes knocked down due to his motion, and didn't get the ball to the best receivers. When Young declared for the draft it was Hakeem and the Rockets all over again-- the Houston Texans were blessed with the perfect storm. The football angels were smiling on our franchise. All we needed to do was make a very smart football decision to begin rebuilding the franchise that Casserly had wrecked and we had the added bonus of re-energizing the city behind a Qb who had Elway/Montana talent- and proved it against all doubters in two Rose Bowl appearances. I will root for my Texans but I am not impressed with their player decisions up to the VY pass. Get past that mistake and they did super- Charles Spencer, Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels- great work Kubiak!
Exactly. He's not our worst problem....so let's give him a big extension!!! They made a decision on the QB position first. That decision was to trust the braintrust that made the Carr pick...and extend it out. Congratulations. You're the proud owner of a David Carr contract.
Agreed that they were wrong. Your assessment of the decision is much more reasonable than "keeping DC was more important than drafting VY."
Good for them. Yes, we know David Carr sucks. The difference between us and the bandwagon fans taking over this forum is that we don't run when things suck. I love David Carr a lot more than I love VY because he's the QB of my team. I don't cut and run while whining like a little baby when my team doesn't pick the guy I want. Go find a Titans forum for chrissakes.
I would never root for the Tennessee Titans but Im rooting for Vince to succeed. Vince is as much Houstonian, and probably moreso, than any member of the Texans.
I believe it takes a bigger Texan fan to be sick over not selecting VY than it takes to be happy with Carr. I will be over with this whole thing once I get focused on next seasons draft. I am pretty happy that Casserly won't be involved. That gives me more hope for my Texans than anything else. Plus I am giving Kubiak a big thumbs up until proven otherwise. I really like how he drafted after the #1 pick. If Kubiak does as well next draft as last one and we have someone to take over once DC draws the last straw. I think it will all be good in Texan Land. I am not going to mourn VY much more, I am only stunned that anyone could watch him play in college, then declare as a Jr. when we had the #1 pick- and think it was smart to pass on him. That is one reason I don't believe in NFL experts (the ones paid to draft or evaluate talent) are worth a flip. Those guys who are paid to do it screw it up more than most fans I know. Teams that draft well are few and far between and usually rise to the top- Patriots, Colts, Steelers, Chargers, Cowboys- come to mind. (I know the Steelers suck and I can't stand the Cowboys)
Hey. That's not fair. Like Phil Garner says... Fans should be devoted, but the team has to give fans a reason to stay true. And the Texans didn't. They screwed the pooch horribly. Screw the Texans. I hope they get their asses kicked and you waste your time cheering on this pathetic organization for many long years.
REALLY??? SERIOUSLY???? Man...I don't know where you got that loyalty to the Texans from. I think it's great. I told someone earlier, I'm a little jealous of it. I was a season ticket holder, and I just don't have it. I guess some of you see that as a character flaw, but I don't really care. I just can't believe there is this much passion FOR the Texans from some of you.
It's there because I know, 20 years from now, when I'm 50 and with kids, the Texans will still be here. BTW, I'm not judging anyone's character over who they choose to root for in sports. Seriously, anything said melodramatically in this forum is all in the context of sports for me. I'm not going to think less of anyone as a person because of who they root for in a game.
what they do? hatin on us but they never cross HOUSTON TEXAS is the CITY and VINCE YOUNG is the BOSS!
For the record, I don't see it as a character flaw at all. It's an entertainment choice about a blooming game, fer cryin' out loud. That, and there is no such thing as a "TRUE FAN!!!1!" Carry on.
