I am not sure VY would do any better than Carr with the Texans right now, but I am real sure Carr would have no chance for the Titans. Yet they were a hapless 0-3 with Collins, and now 4-4 with VY. As Ronnie Lott (SC) affirmed last year during the Rose Bowl halftime, this is the best QB he has seen in some time and he needs to go to the NFL, like now. VY knows maybe 30% of what he will know about running an NFL offense over time and is just starting to trust his instincts, yet he already makes his team better. His growth is going to be unreal, even the most skeptical anti-VY predraft folks have to see the writing on the wall at this point.
just give it up guys.... IC and jgreen will always be VY haters. when VY is one of the top QBs in the league they will still hate on him. they are like kerr and rosen with yao. god I wish we had vince.
Vince hasn't proven anything. He has had one good game. Earlier this season, Carr had the highest QB ratings in the game. The only thing VY has proven, is that he failed his Wonderlics.
deke: hey vince why do have so many haters vy: they're just frontin cause they know i'm stuntin luther: these people are drinking haterade instead of red bull
people still hate on ralph sampson. even though he beat a laker team full of hall of famers. people still hate on maxwell even though they know Maxwell would beat the living crap out of the haters and get their women and then make it to the game and hit game winners. people hate that vince came from the hood and rose up and is the number #1 stunna and david carr is just vanilla ice.
• Vince Young and the Titans rebounded from a 21-0 fourth-quarter deficit to a 24-21 victory over the Giants. Young became the first rookie starting QB in NFL history to rally his team to victory from a deficit of 20 or more points. The previous record was a 19-point margin erased by John Elway in a 21-19 win over the Baltimore Colts in 1983. The subtext in that game was Elway's refusal to play for the Colts after they selected him with the first pick in the 1983 draft.
deke: hey vince, what's two plus two? vy: five luther: no dog, its four. and why is your hat sideways?
Vince Young appears to be proving that the Wonderlic doesn't mean a damn. Why the hate, brother? I'd much rather have a winner, leader, and playmaker than David Carr. I don't know what David's QB rating was for the last game, but I watched the last three minutes and saw it get pumped up in pure garbage time. Carr consistently makes non-impact plays, and win or lose, VY is out there trying to win the game.
You'd think IC would have learned to keep his mouth shut after Vince shut it for him last year. Some people don't learn.
How many qbs unequivocally 'prove' anything their rookie year. For that matter, how many unequivocally prove anything in their career? For instance, what has Carr proven? Is he your winner? It doesn't take much to see the positives in this rookie qb, and it's interesting that he just broke Elway's rookie comeback record since his Vince's stats are nearly identical to Elway's rookie stats (other than VY doubling John's rushing yards and him trading some of Elways interceptions for fumbles). And interesting to note that you had to hang your hat on Carr 'earlier this season'. Well VY earlier this season was worse than he is now, apparently Carr is worse. Thanks for pointing that out.
VY broke a his first huge record on Sunday ~ Carr threw 150 yards worth of dump downs in trash time (ie) the 4th quarter.
i guess you'd show vince young some love if he was a scrub qb from a college team that did nothing like fresno state. maybe if vince did some stupid commercial with roger clemens talking about how he hates sacking , youd show him some love. maybe if you like him if he grew up in a rich neighborhood instead of the hood in houston and made it to the top.
i never hated the guy. i've always hated teh posters who always just **** on the Texans for not taking him. If it is the wrong move in the long run, i'll be pissed. but i'll never disregard teh Texans and suddenly claim the Titans are my team just b/c they didn't pick my player. I gave VY props earlier in the thread. oops, forgot to add. i'm not an Aggie.