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Titans prefer to face Texans QB, not his backup

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  1. Landlord Landry

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    exactly, it only solidifies my argument even more.
     
  2. msn

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    Are you saying you'd still defend David Carr, or am I missing your point here?
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Never ceases to Amaze me

    Schaub sucks. . it is the offensive lines fault
    Sage does well . .behind the same line . .. well .. . uhm . .a million and one other excuses

    FACE IT
    SAGE > SCHAUB > CARR

    Rocket River

    Sage = ROMO
    Schaud = Bledsoe
    *grin*
     
  4. Landlord Landry

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    you mean like that 4 turnover game Sage had against Tenn, where he simultaneously did everything he could to win, and lose the game?

    look, Sage is a great backup, and I am not defending Schaub, he's been subpar so far for sure, and frail.

    but christ, why are people still ripping on the QB when the Texans have NEVER and I mean NEVER had an offensive line or running game.........

    but everyone still wants to put the entire burden of the teams success on the QB.

    take for example Trent Green, from 2001-2005 he had a ton of passing yards and Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson were smashing NFL rushing records and the Chiefs were one of the top offenses in the leauge.

    Then willie roaf and will shields hang it up, brian waters and casey wigemann consequently slow down and all of sudden Trent Green/Larry Johnson are garbage, and the Chiefs suck. weird.
     
  5. Landlord Landry

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    no, David Carr is a seperate case, and you can't unscramble an egg, but who knows if Carr was an egg to begin with?

    what I am saying......Schaub is getting his brains scrambled just as Carr did, and for the same reasons, the only thing we know up untill this point, is that Carr was more durable than Schuab currently is and it's my opinion that Schaub is headed down the same road Carr went down.........and I am 99.99% sure that if Sage was to start and play all the downs, he'd end up in the same boat as Carr and Schaub.

    Does Schuab make mistakes? of course. Does he need to improve and make better football decisions? absolutley. But don't kid yourself for one second and think Rosenfels is gonna step in to the same mess and lead this team to the playoffs. The QB position is just the begining of the Texans issues.
     
  6. Baqui99

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    I think the Texans got desperate and overextended themselves by taking a very raw Duane Brown in the 1st round last year. He's still learning the game, and probably isn't the best fit to start right away.
     
  7. XBLRocketman111

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    I agree with your statement, very very raw but has potential, will we see that potential this year..... IMO i don't think so but future is bright. Still thought we should have taken a RB or Corner
     
  8. Uprising

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    I completely agree on the VY part, not so much of the Sage part. but you know what? I'm really not sure. I love Sage, but not quite ready to give up on Schaub (sp?)
     
  9. leroy

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    I wouldn't say they've NEVER had a running game. Domanick Davis/Williams was on his way to stardom had he not gotten hurt.

    That said, I agree. The line play has been spotty at best. Haynesworth is a jackass...but he's also dominant. Pitts and Brown have their hands full this Sunday. If they can contain him, they have a chance.
     
  10. Legend Killer

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    I feel the same way.
    The titans with a REAL QB are a dangerous team.
    Vince Young has been holding the back!
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    kerry collins did start before vince, my my, you guys are ridiculous. kerry collins was a nice qb in his early days, i rooted for him because i liked the penn state squad who got robbed of a national championship in 95 before the bcs was formed.

    I took up for him when he got drunk and made racist comments. but his career has been mediocre at best since his really good start in Carolina. he will have some big days, he will throw some picks. but he did start for the same freakin exact team that vince took over and won rookie of the year with and the reason he was benched was more about him and less about vince.
     
  12. dskillz

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    The onyl thing I will say to that is the O-line sure did look alot better last year when Sage was in. Schaub caused alot of those problems against the Steelers himself. The Texans went to a 3-step drop, similiar to what the Steelers started using when Ben was getting pressured. But instead of getting rid of the ball quickly, he held on and got hammered. Just like another number 8 around here.

    The fact is that every QB gets sacked. Every QB takes a hard hit. Schaub seems to -
    a. get hurt on every other hit
    b. actually shows the opponent he is hurt
    c. gets very scared in the pocket after his first hit.

    The book is out on Schaub already. Hit him early and he will not be a factor the rest of the game. Sage might not have the talent of Schaub, but he is a hell of alot tougher. Next year he is gone anyway, so the debate will be over.
     
  13. Smokey

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    The coolest thing about that run is the fans were celebrating like it was a Titans home game. People with Texans gear were jumping up and down.

    Now that is hilarious.
     
  14. LongTimeFan

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    I actually think having your mom complain about how you're treated unfairly is even more hilarious.

    Sage should start - Schaub doesn't have a cool nickname like the Toy Cannon. CASE CLOSED.
     
  15. Landlord Landry

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    are you confusing Sage Rosenfels with Jimmy Wynn?
     
  16. ryan17wagner

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    Ummm, no. Not even close.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    There will be no Schaub- Sage QB controversy.

    Why?

    Schaub will be knocked out of this game, or if not, then the next one. Everytime Schaub gets hit, it looks like he is about to die. Watch how shaken up he always gets.
     
  18. HillBoy

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    For sure. After that 2nd hit in Pittsburgh he looked like he was about to pass out. He simply never had to face this kind of pounding when he was sitting on the bench in Atlanta. But there will be no QB controversy here because as long as Schaub can wobble back on the field and remain upright for the snap, he'll be the starter. Kubiak has based his entire tenure here on his decision to go get Schaub instead of drafting a QB in 2006 and that means that they will both go down in flames if things don't start to improve (and quickly). I'm expecting the Titans to come out and try to deliver a knockout blow right off the bat by simply pinning their ears back and bullrushing the Texans. The game will be decided in how well the Texans can weather the early storm.

    If you haven't already, I would suggest you take a peek at Thomas Hilton's excellent analysis on the upcoming game in his Texans Fan Blog: http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2008/09/we_now_return_you_to_our_regul.html. He's spot on about a number of things including the fact that the rest of the NFL has caught on to the zone blocking scheme that Gibbs and Kubiak are trying to use here.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    schaub actually took a pretty good pounding in college at uva. that was part of his appeal coming into the league
     
  20. msn

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    I thought he based it on Carr? You need a new take.
     

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