my post was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but if you're the Texans why would you draft VY b/c of his potential and not Leinart? If Leinart is "NFL ready", and considering the state of the Texans, shouldn't Texans fans want who can bring them wins now? why is VY more likely to take us to the SuperBowl when Leniart himself has a National Championship? and i'm sure that if we had drafted VY, after seeing Carr's performance so far this year in the preseason, we'd be calling for his demotion and begging them to let VY play. no one would be happy about the team bringing in another veteran just so Young can "learn".
Vince has a National Championship too, did you miss that? The Texans aren't ready to contend, even if they had Joe Montana in his prime under center. They have a lot of work to do upfront as well as in the defensive secondary to get to even a mediocre level, much less a good enough level to contend with all the really great teams in the AFC. If the Texans had wanted to go QB, the thought process was (as it should be) to go for the best long-term good. Also, don't let a few haters and a lot of VY cultists cloud your judgment on what Texans fans think of Carr. There is a sizable portion of fans, myself included, who absolutely see no reason to even discuss his "demotion."
really? i hadn't noticed. it's hard to get that kind of news down here in HOuston. i'm not arguing if Young is a great quarterback or not, but can you tell me why he would be a better long-term solution as opposed to Leinart? serious question. i was just using that as an example, albeit a very debatable one.
Playmaking. Young's legs bring an entirely different dimension to the game. I'm not going to tell you any BS about intangibles or being a winner - certainly, if those exist, Leinart possesses them as well. But Leinart's a traditional pocket passer who has succeeded in a traditional system while he's been blessed with some of the best surrounding talent in the history of the game. Young gives you an entirely different element that in some schemes may make him more valuable. It depends. FWIW, if the Texans have/had doubts on their ability to upgrade the offensive line significantly in the near future, Young would definitely be a better fit for the team than Leinart. One of those things Young's legs influences are the routes in which defensive linemen and linebackers take to the quarterback. His escapability forces defenders to pause before they go in all out pursuit and overpursue, and thus can make a bad offensive line look better than they are. That's one positive I can think of that would make him a better fit, had they taken one of the two.
There were rumors of the Titans signing Collins even before the McNair was officially traded. You can say this somewhat reflects on VY, but the truth is that the NFL has shown that throwing rookie QBs right into the fire isn't the smartest thing and its no different for VY. Chow/Fisher MAY not think VY is ready to assume starting duties, but even Heisman winner Carson Palmer (one of the most polished college QBs to come out) sat for a year behind Kitna. Does that may him any less of a prospect? Both Warner and Plummer are ten times the player Volek is, the Titans are just solidifying a relatively weak QB core. As good as a prospect/talent VY is, he is still a rookie, Volek is also a backup QB forced to start. I don't think this pushes VY down to 3rd string...if Collins doesn't workout, I fully expect to see VY starting. IF the Cardinals or Broncos made this move, then it would be a clear hit on Leinart/Warner and Cutler/Plummer. But when you're starting QB is suppose to be on the bench and the backup is a rookie, you have to look for some QB help. Both Warner and Plummer are ten times the QB Volek is.
Not sure I get this argument, but OK. I'm viewing this one in black and white terms. Take Collins completely out of the picture. Let's say Warner or Plummer go down for the season with injuries, I believe they would be confident going straight to Leinart or Cutler, where as the Titans might not go straight to Young. Not a knock on Young necissarily, or is it?
I really, really think you're wrong. If Plummer or Warner went down with injuries before the season (i.e. while both teams still had postseason hopes), I feel extremely confident both teams would be scanning the waiver wire and making overtures in the trade market to try and acquire veteran competition. It's just the way the NFL works. You don't turn over the team to a rookie quarterback unless you have absolutely zero desire or expectations from your fan base to win games (see David Carr, expansion Texans).
Titans arent an expansion team with an offensive line that resembles something out of an arena football 2nd string. But then of course, you already knew that.
I get what you're saying and I think you're right that the Cards and Broncos could be confident to start Leinart or Cutler, but like The Cat posted, I could almost guarantee that they would be panicking a little looking for a QB (whether it be a starter or backup). Like I said, as good as VY can be, he is still a rookie. Collins is a good veteran QB that gives the Titans more options than starting a backup QB or a rookie. You look at what happened to Alex Smith last season, and we've all seen what happened to Carr. There are obvious exceptions like Big Ben, but for the most part, whether it's Leinart/Palmer/Cutler/VY, you're not going to see NFL teams throwing their franchise QB right into the fire when they are not ready.
Matt Leinhart had one good game against the bears in pre-season and you're saying he's better than young? Look at Young's pre-season numbers, while it isn't goddy, he's being consistently adequate through at the 3 games he played. He's probably holding back and letting the game to come to him at this point. Once he learned the offence we'll see who's the better team. Remember, Ryan Leaf looked better than Peyton after 2 games.
IIRC, the first time that UH went to the Final Four with Olajuwon on the roster, he didn't even hit the floor... or barely did. Leinart is playing a continuation of his game at USC. Vince is learning a new pro-style game. Also AZ is better than TN; it hurts to admit that. I also believe that Leinart has been getting gametime with the first team at AZ.
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