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Titanic: Do you think the ship split?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Fatty FatBastard, Mar 10, 2007.

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  1. astrorockette

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    I didn't like the movie, I liked Leo Dicaprio (who incendentally managed to bang Giselle for 3 years without knocking her up). He's the sole reason that movie was awesome.
     
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    Actually, the coolest fact was that there were only seven people picked up from the wreckage. One of which was a cook on the boat who said he rode the boat down and got sauced the entire way. His hair never touched water.

    The funny aside to it was when you watch Jack and Rose finally go into the water, they stared at the cook.

    Which brings to mind another useless tip: if you are about to be in freezing water for the next hour or so, alcohol keeps the body from freezing.

    Seriously, there are several asides in that movie that are astounding if you know what to look for, such as when Jack climbs up to meet Rose, they very casually show a scene from one of the most famous pictures of Titanic that still remain, which was a child spinning a top.

    These things mean nothing to anyone who doesn't know the history of the ship, but to those who do, Cameron did a damn good job.
     
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    When you're willing to let your world become an open book like I have, and stop hiding behind r****ded visuals and "unlikely" posts, I'll pay you your respect.

    Until then, shut it.
     
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    Personally, I think it sank because someone set up us the bomb.
     
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    Darth Vader sank it.
     
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    Wasn't there a scene in Forrest Gump where he uses the Titanic to harvest shrimp...?
     
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    Did you cry during the movie?
     
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    Fatty FatBastard Today, 05:29 AM
     
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    Because Star Wars sucks. There, I said it.
     
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    Ummmm. Making your life an open book on a BBS isn't something most people would consider worthy of respect.
     
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    I will indulge Fatty's soul barring thesis.

    I'm not at all a Titanic scholar although I will admit I own the movie on VHS (It was a gift). But I think the movie version makes sense and seems very plausible.

    You need to consider that the Titanic isn't a monolithic structure like a soda can, the size of the Titanic, its proportions and its weight distribution. While yes when a can fills with water it sinks at once and the air filled part either crushes or the air is forced out but a can is one single structure so while it is being stressed there aren't seams that can be stressed and fail. The Titanic though is composed primarily of rivetted metal and all of those seams are potential weak spots where the hull plates could shear apart. At the same time the water proof bulkheads while failing they didn't all fill up at once the bow sections filled first but when the bow sunk it lifted the stern part above the water where water didn't enter them so you had air filled chambers that provided buoyancy to keep the ship up even while the weight of the water filled bow sections was pulling down. Given the stresses of one part trying ot stay up and one part going down it seems logical that at the junction of the sections the seams of the hull plates would fail.

    Next the Titanic is massive so that the stresses on either part are likely in the thousands of tons of pressure. It would almost be impossible to have that strong and that many riveted connections that could hold that. At the sametime while the Titanic is huge its much longer than it is taller or wider and standing up it is basically pole. The stress of one part trying to remain buoyant while the other part is sinking puts it in tension. The Titanic wasn't designed to be upright and to be stressed in tension where it is being pulled at both ends. More likely the Titanic was designed to withstand compression and lateral stresses having to do with it being hit sideways or from the front. The possibility that it would be upright being pulled from the bow probably never occured to the designers.

    When the Titanic is sitting upright bow down though its also not only subject to tension forces pulling it apart but there is also a moment (overturning force) running through it. When it is bow down its a poorly balanced and heavy pole but also I suspect that its heavier in the stern area as that is where the engines are and to propel it efficiently you want the weight in the stern. When it is sitting upright bow down though its top heavy and the stern section is not just bouyant due to the air in it but gravity is also pulling on that weight downwards. So Not only is the ship being pulled apart in tension there is a moment force in the midsection as the bow tries to pull straight down while the stern tries to fall back. None of the forces were likely considered in the design so it makes sense that it would fail along that route into two or more parts.
     

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