As long as the tip's over 15%, you're safe. If the headwaiter tries to rob you when you're getting into your car, then you're perfectly within your rights to pop him. 15% is an adequate tip. Unless you're in Cozumel, that is. Then you either pay more (to the hotel mgr), or you tip the cabbie twice. You don't want to have to pop two people...
I think you should stop while you are behind. There were plenty of thoughtful posts about the matter before you chimed in about it. In full service resteraunts, I believe I tip before tax not after. It would seem strang to tip on taxes??? For a bill over $20, I tip 17-20% for average service, 12-14% for really bad service (I figure just a little under 15% drives the point), and 20-25% for excellent service. For a bill less than $20 it is 20% minimum for me. For pizza, $3-5. For hair, $4-6 For hard labor jobs, movers, landscapers, etc., I usually do 3-10% depending on how hard they worked and the degree the job required extra attention. Those are TOUGH jobs. For hotel maids, typically $2-3 per day. Often I know they are illegals getting paid under minimum. I pay each day (not only when I leave ther hotel) though so they remember my room. I don't like the valet thing one bit, but I do tip them $2-3 Persons that carry bags (hotel, travel--this includes airport shuttle guys who help with bags but not usually ones who only drive and stop)--usually $1 per bag. Taxi-about 15%, some variability depending on service (help with bags, appear to take a "long route"). I like the Europe system as well [taxs and tips (10% I think)] included in all prices. But then they really appreciate another 3-10%. Interestingly, I went to a bar in Switzerland and there was no tip jar or anything, the bartender was quite surprised and didn't know what to do when I tried to give him more franks than what covered the drink Also, when I travel internationally, I usually throw lots of small tips around unless I read or hear it would really be against custom. The people usually really need it, it never hurts service, and might be really helpful because you never know how they might be able to help you out because, after all, your are in a foreign land.
Let's say your bill is $200 before taxes. Add 8.25% = $16.50. So, that's $16 you're not tipping on, but the waiter has to "tip out" (pay the restaurant) on that very same $16. So, part of what you're tipping is going to pay for the amount you did not tip on. I have had a few tables tip $2 on a $70 tab. This means that after tip out (2.5%), I make $.25 on that table. Thanks people come back (just don't come to my section).
My girlfriend worked in a restraunt where they made her tip out 3 % for credit cards, and like 5% for the bus boys. Therefore many times people would leave like 6% on a really big tab thinking that it was a big amount and she would actualy have to pay from her own pocket for helping to serve these people. That really pissed her off, let me tell you. Also, keep in mind that if you think you can get away with tipping less just because you have a really large party with a really large bill, remember that the waiter or waitress probably spent a really large part of their working evening waiting on you, and will therefore have fewer other tables to make up for the fact that you're a cheapskate. If you can't afford to pay a full tip, then you can't afford to take so many people to dinner. Finally, there seems to be an inverse rekationship between the amount of praise at the end of the meal and the size of the tip. If the party is kissing your @$$ on the way out the door, they most likely left you a pittiance.
Yeah, you're a real playa, but talk about a waiter making over $20000 a year. Whatever it is you're playin, I suggest you find a new game to get into because 20 g's/yr won't get you very far. BTW, you're a fuggin caricature.
Which restaurant do you work at? I currently work at Trudy's South Star and have to tip out anywhere from 3%-8% depending on what I sell.
If I were you I'd have asked her to put in her share which would have been $20. She needed to understand that her share was not $13.
I'd have to go with teachers. Not only are they demanding as $hit, but they ALWAYS want separate checks and usually order water with a lemon.
Dude, I think you are taking this way too far DREAMer. While I don't like using the word ****** and don't like hearing it from other people, calling a black table, Canadian is not the same as calling them ******s. By your logic simply black means ******, which it does not. I've working in restaurants where we'd sometimes label a black table as Canadian and usually, I'd be the one to step up and take the table because IMO money is money. They way I see it, a black person is a black person. Ty_Webb, You've said some pretty dumb stuff in the past.... especially regarding racial issues. If you can't see that one reference is positive and one reference is negative, then you've got issues. Also, saying that all black people are poor tippers doesn't really bother me. Statistically, I'm sure they are, but that's not where the descriptions stop. I have to sit there and listen to a bunch of totally racist ****, then quietly ask them if they'd say the same thing to a black employee. They then always looked puzzled, some don't answer, some say "No.", so even say, "Hell yeah, if I didn't have to work with them". Actually I have had that discussion with many black people and they had no problem with it and would usually agree with me.
Nope, compaq employees, always ordering **** like pork chops and demanding that they be in and out in 20 minutes.
Wait a second, if I do my math correctly, by me not including taxes in the bill that amounts at about a 1.6% less overall tip. Although actually, come to think of it, I think I probably tip based on the total bill after tax because isn't that the last # you see on a receipt. Anyway, whether I do/don't factor in taxes in calculating my tip my overall scheme is still pretty much on target. I have a question Dreamer, when you figure out the taxes waiters have to pay, does the IRS require you to consider a % of the total bill before or after taxes? Also, often when I pay the bill by credit card I leave the tip in cash if I can (again my scale is 17-25% for service that isn't terrible). Do waiters appreciate that or does just not really matter because the IRS get their set cut anyway? When that tip out deal approaches 8% that sucks!
Easy rule of thumb in the state of texas, just find the tax line, and double it, rounding up or down to the nearest dollar. At least that's what I do.
RocketPimp, If "Canadian" does not mean Nigg**, then why don't they just say "black"? Think about that one for a while. The word "black" can have the same connotation as Nigg**. It just depends on who and how someone says it. A person saying "Canadian" (you) nowadays, is just like a person using the word "Nigg**" back in the day when it was acceptable. There is no difference. If you can live with that, then by all means do. If you had an adopted or foster child who was black (assuming you're not black), would you want someone calling that child "Canadian", knowing full-well what they meant? ------------------------------- WasabiTheNinjaPimp, Then I either hope you are not 21 yrs old, or you do not drink alcohol. Because alcoholic beverages are not taxed, and they add up quick. If you and two friends go out to eat and you each have 2 margaritas at $5.00 a piece, that's 6X5 for $30 you wouldn't be tipping on. ------------------------------- Desert Scar, The tax for tipped employees is sorta weird. They gauge how much you should be claiming in income on your total sales (yeah, that included taxes). But, there is only a minimum percentage that they have. If a waiter claims ridiculously low, then they are in line for an audit, and must prove their income. At my stupid job, the computer automatically claims all of your credit card tips. Now, let's say you had all credit card payments one night. If they all tipped 10% (wow, what a crappy night), then you only are claiming 10%. BUT, that doesn't not take into account your "tip out". So, in reality you are over-claiming your income, which leads to an overpayment of taxes.
I don't drink ------ the price of drinking (in $$) is simply too high for me, and I don't particularly find the taste of alcohol appealing.
HELLO! Myself? I tip at least 50% of the bill, but then, I need A LOT of service!!! BTW, I have waited at country clubs, and THEY ARE THE WORST TIPPERS IN THE WORLD!! A bunch of millionaires getting waited on hand and foot, And I MIGHT leave with $10 bucks worth of tip money. (I know, we get paid $10 bucks an hour, but, again, if I provide exemplary service, you'd think they might throw a couple of bucks my way. BUT NONE OF THEM EVER DO!) Anyway, just another example of the waiting industry!
Blasphemy. Alcohol is the best thirst quencher I know. And as Homer says "Beer. The cause and the solution to all of life's problems."
Ten year bump, thanks Ricky Sonic is usually $2 Pizza delivery drivers I try to do about $5. They make minimum wage plus .50-.75 per delivery, they don't get compensated for their gas or the wear and tear on their vehicles. Tipping $2 when you were the only stop on their run and they had to come 10 miles to you and 10 miles back, they're making no money.
I'm with you on the amount, but unless there's no avoiding it, any pizza guy that takes one delivery on a 10 mile run isn't doing it right.
