Reality Check!! Rockets: 3-5 million a year, and no guarantee to make (or survice) playoffs in the deep west. Wizards: 8-9 million a year (GM & Manager), and can easily make the playoffs most years in the ****ty east. Lets hope this is not about the money!
The Bullets can't be that dumb to be throwing 8-9 million at Gumby. Gumby is an okay coach, but he isn't that great. It not like Gumby is Parcells, Jackson, Gruden or someone along those lines. But if I were Gumby and the Bullets threw that kind of cash at me, I would probably take it.
It just amazes me that if JVG goes to Washington and Dunleavy goes to ATL, then what? What happens then? Will the Rockets then interview guys like Cleamons,Jordan,Wilkens and Carisle or will they just give the job back to Smith?They really messed over themselves by not making it a competitive thing and only interviewing 3 or 4 guys when there were 8 or 9 jobs open.
I think thats what people are forgetting about the Wizards. If JVg goes there, he will have power he's never had. If the team makes bad picks, then he's the one to blame because he made them. The 7mill they will pay him is really coming off good since then they won't have topay for a gm, much like Popovich.5mill to coach,2mill to gm then he would probably hire a guy totake care of the contracts and stuff while he coaches, but he will have final say so. If I'm JVg, that doesn't look so bad. On top of that, they don't have any bad contracts. All of their contracts can probably be moved if they so wanted too and they're under the cap. Its not as bad as fans who want him here to seem. While we're giving him free visits to astroworld , the wizards have the checkbook open talking some real ****!
Sorry to derail this a bit, but I've always wondered when people say things like this; first of all, whether or not the person in question has a "camp", and secondly, what would that camp consist of. Seriously, I'd like to know. For example, in the entertainment biz, I know 50 cent has lot of handlers and then there are his boys and then there's his label people etc. There's also sports. Take Yao. He has freakin "Team Yao", his management company. So I it's pretty appropriate to me to say he has a "camp". But what about Van Gundy? He is a former coach and currently a TV color commentator for TNT. Did he have a "camp" when he was a coach? If he did, I'd figure it would have been mostly people from the Knicks organization. So they can't be his "camp" now. I guess it could be Van Gundy's lawyer, his accountant, and his publicist (does he even have a publicist?, he's not Cuttino), oh, and his family. After looking at the options, I really don't think Van Gundy has something you can term a "camp" (ala Team Yao). So I guess ROXTXIA's theory could mean Van Gundy's lawyer tipped off the press. I could see that. I could also see that someone from DC leaked the news. And since Van Gundy is being up front about it in today's paper, I'm not sure if it is a "driving up the price" thing as much as a "I'm simply stating what is going on" thing. As much as I'd really like Van Gundy to be the coach, I can understand how he's take the DC job: twice the money plus much more power.
Hmm. Well, if we're stuck with Dunlasty, better pony up for good assistants. And look at Avery - 5 and a half mil as player coach in Cuban's playpen. Good god. I just have very little confidence in Dunlasty if he's fumbling about on his own. We've got to break the job up, so he can manage. The coaching STAFF idea becomes much much more important. Must have top quality assistants. What does Cleamons make? What does Eddie Jordan make? We need the top assistant X/O guy. Van Chancellor could do it, in the budget. A new women's coach is cheaper. Big : You can get Kareem/Mo Malone on the cheap. Smalls: You can get Mario Elie/Calvin Murphy on the cheap. I guess I'm ok with Dunleavy Van Chancellor Kareem Elie That seems to add enough grit to the mix. That looks like a good coaching team to go to war with. Smart enough to game plan, tough enough to demand and motivate. That'd be the kind of mix I'd be looking for, if I'm Les. Some hungry up and comers who'll work cheap, a wise old hand (under contract), a manager with experience and local ties (more affordable).
If he has a camp, is it called Van Camp? Maybe Washington needs a big move to appease its season ticket holders after the Jordan debacle. The owner did send letters to the season ticket holders offering refunds of deposits if they were not satisfied with the team's direction.
Gumby is ALOT like Gruden. What is it that Gruden did before this year that Gumby didn't do before either? Gruden was the final piece to a defensive oriented team. On top of that, he is a kick ass young coach, highly respected and who never won anything until he had the Bucs give up the FARM and their kids to bring him to Tampa. A highly regarded coach before a superbowl. Gumby could be a final piece to an offensive oriented team. On top of that, he is a kick ass young coach, highly respected who never won anything until the Rockets would give up the FARM and their kids to bring him to Houston. A highly regarded coach before a championship. Other than that, they are different.
I don't know why these Tampa Bay analogies keep coming up. But if I think about it all I'd say ok, we hire the wrong coach now, fire him 2 or 3 years from now, hire the right one and win the championship?
I think it's been kind of funny watching all the posters mess themselves over the coaching change. Folks, Les and CD have been working in this business for awhile now. Not only do they know better how to go about getting this done than the folks here, they are working with more information than we are. Almu, if it makes you feel any better, if you know Van Gundy is getting a big offer from another team, than Dawson probably knows it too, and probably knows for certain which team to boot. Or, do you think you have better sources than the Rockets? Everyone, sit back, relax, wait until a coach is signed. Then, b**** like hell because they didn't get the guy you wanted.
Jeff Van Gundy to New Jersey? People are criticizing Byron Scott...blaming him for no reason. Just a thought. Probably not.
Nobody paid Rudy to step down. Rudy would have been entitled to the full sum of his contract whether he was fired or not. The contracts of coaches and players are guaranteed.
I have heard some talk about Phil Jackson nearing retirement because of his health. Byron Scott is a logical replacement. Van Gundy doesn't want to leave the Tri-State Area. Voila! JVG goes back to TNT ... waits a year ... and replaces Scott in NJ.
LOL Kim you're in the entertainment industry right? surely you know about agents then and how they earn their money. Commission baby!! That means they have to sell by any means necessary. Van Gundy now has infinitely many contacts via his agent. Yes Van Gundy likes our team better than anyone elses. He was already talking about how he'd handle the team if he got here in several publications, mainly by paying homage and gathering info from Rudy. This is a leak from his agent, and now its up to our front office to see who, not only has the bigger balls, but makes sure they swing their balls just right to get what we want. Les, suck it up for two years, pay the man accordingly. If this happens, and it shall... I believe we have the commitment to be dominant as Les portrays to everyone else before decisions have to be made. Please step up Les.
More power to Van Gundy if he chooses to go to Washington, because Washington is going nowhere fast. I think he'll pick the Rockets because this will give him the best chance to reach a Championship. I don't think in relative terms, a couple of million will be the deciding factor on where he chooses to coach. In any case, if he has success with the Rockets he's gonna be worth a lot more anyway.
Juan, Don't make logical posts like that ever again in this forum, especially during the massive group heart attack that is the Rockets Coaching Search. CD and Les are both stupid, lazy, and have no sources. You should know this by reading the posts of those that DEFINITELY have no sources outside of this bbs...
I posted something in another thread that I probably read here (I read it somewhere ) which was that the longest a coach has lasted in Washington since Rudy has been coaching the Rockets is 2 years. If Gumby takes that job he's nuts or it's just for the money. What's funny to me is that I don't want him OR Dunleavy. Go figure. Maybe he's the best out there, but I haven't been convinced. But our coaching search is starting to look somewhat rediculous. BTW. I think it looks like a can opener too, heypee. You're not crazy.
