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Time to move McGrady?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, May 4, 2008.

  1. marciagong

    marciagong Member

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    If Tmac was to play for Denver, I want JVG to be the head coach. Jeff knows how to motivate Tmac and he coaches defense. Their Offense shouldn't be a problem cause they have so many natural scorers. :)
     
  2. t_mac1

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    it depends on how oden plays. if he's a defensive stud like he is, they will get out of the first round.

    brandon roy is a perfect 2nd option. he will handle a lot of the playmaking b/c he already has a pretty high usage rating. all tmac will do is score (roy is a perfect player for this team b/c he's like a little version of tmac in terms of what he can do).

    you have TREMENDOUS SIZE on that starting lineup (with more off the bench). that team will KILL a team like utah or hornets and most likely the spurs. but that all depends on oden. oden is publicized as a ridiculously defender and has a great post-up game. if that's true, then yea they'll get out of the first round. remember, they struggle this year simply b/c they don't have another star or inside presence. with tmac and oden, you get both.

    and portland is a very composed team. i doubt they really need veteran leadership. they act extremely professional under the leadership of nate.
     
  3. marciagong

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    Gosh, now the Nuns, Nuggets, Mavs scenarioes sound so promising that I'm already pumped for next year. :D
     
  4. t_mac1

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    dude, we want to make houston better. eff those teams.

    tmac is NOT going to be traded. with yao's short window left (along with tmac), if you're going to trade tmac, might as well trade yao and start over.

    tmac and yao will be here for the next 2 years. our job is to surround them with that one other elusive piece.
     
  5. MaxwellsTemper

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    I think I should avoid clutchfans for the summertime, its going to be an off-season of "trade TMAC" threads.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I can see that
    I dunnot about beating the Hornets and Spurs
    but the JAzz IMO was way overrated

    I think the issue with Trading T-mac is the other team
    would be in the KOBE situation
    Trading to get him . . without gutting their team

    If the Rockets insisted on ROY , Aldridge and the #1
    Portland would be gutted at least for a season maybe two

    Rocket River
    This is all hypothetical and interesting to talk about on a Sunday with no Rockets Basketball to watch though
     
  7. marciagong

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    Don't dude me. ;)
    I understand that you want to make houston better, but I want the best for Tmac too.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    the best for tmac is to have EVERYONE healthy for one damn season. we are a contender right now. if we had yao and rafer healthy the whole series, it would have been at most a 5 game series.

    but i don't know. a lot of teams failed to meet expectations this year.

    i'm sure the nuggets are ready to fire george karl and trade iverson (he's an unrestricted FA and i doubt they're that confident in the iverson-melo duo). if we were to make a straight up trade, a tmac-iverson trade is as closest as there would be.

    suns are ready to go to a mroe traditional way of winning: defense and half-court offense. they must use shaq right?

    and dallas will look to improve their team in every way possible. everybody on that team is tradeable, including dirk.
     
  9. marciagong

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    I still feel like he's got a better chance on the other 4 teams we discussed.
     
  10. fadeawayjae

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    why trade McGrady he is our best player??? would be such a stupid move imo unless it was for Kobe
     
  11. ReD_1

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    No it isn't and it won't be in a long time...

    Can't you see that Tracy McGrady along with Yao is THIS TEAM.

    He carries it, no matter he has good or bad night, I'm not a particular fan of his game but he really makes people aroung a lot better.

    Other than him, at SG position unless Kobe Bryant I don't see bigger improvement that Rockets can make.

    And I'd rather focus on trading for some athletic, fast wing or backup center, new point guard etc.

    As roling faces of this team said there won't be trading Yao or TMac then there's no point of this thread.
     
  12. Astockmarketgod

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    agreed... if were going to trade Tmac... or Yao... might aswell trade them both... were not going to get full value for them...

    both are viewed as... soft... first round virgins... and injury prone...
     
  13. marciagong

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    Tmac is just an ordinary American basketball player, while Yao is the face of China. Big difference. Of course Yao's trading value is higher, talking about the Chinese market.
     
  14. t_mac1

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    i don't know how high of a value yao is on the market right now.

    if you put him out there, how many teams are willing to trade for him?

    he hasn't played a full season in 3 years. he hasn't dominated at the biggest level. the game is becoming quicker...

    are we talking about money that yao will bring in for other teams or what?
     
  15. marciagong

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    Sure I am. Who doesn't love money?
     
  16. abc2007

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    In fact, Tmac has proved he is still one of a few superstars in this league.

    I think himself wouldn't mind to be traded to another team. He has the ability to lead a team to playoffs. For him, nowhere will be worse than Houston.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    the only way tmac will be traded is if he pulls a kobe earlier this year or a chad johnson currently.

    and i doubt he'll do that.
     
  18. JayZ750

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    All the below are just random thoughts. feel free to call me an idiot and such!

    Trade 1
    T-Mac, Bobby Jackson, Luther Head
    for
    Corey Maggette, Cuttino Mobley, Al Thorton, Tim Thomas

    Corey would have to NOT exercise his option, which is a potentiality for him, if he knows he'll get traded (given there isn't enough money available in the league this offseason if a lot of people exercise their options).

    Rockets trade the best player, but get a lot in return. Lineup becomes Alston, Mobley, Maggette, Scola, Yao with a bench of Brooks, Thorton, Thomas, Landry, Battier, etc.

    Trade 2
    T-Mac, Scola
    for
    Richard Jefferson, Devin Harris, Stromile Swift

    Hate giving up Scola but you get Devin Harris. So you're back in your PF hole, but have solved the long term PG problem.

    Trade 3
    T-Mac, Bobby Jackson, Shane Battier, Luis Scola, Luther Head
    for
    Jermaine O'Neal, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Danny Granger, 1st round pick

    just throwing something out there.

    Trade 4
    T-Mac, Head
    for
    Gilbert Arenas, Darius Songalia, Deshawn Stevenson

    Gilbert would have to not opt out. Again, just throwing something out there.

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    again, just a bunch of random trades. i'd rather keep t-mac and try and move Battier for some athletic, young talent. maybe to Portland for Travis Outlaw plus the rights to Rudy Fernandez with filler to make it work.
     
  19. rofflesaurus

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    i wouldnt mind trading t-mac if we get good pieces
     
  20. Shroopy2

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    From all the Trade McGrady talk I'da figured there's a 1 or ZERO year window.

    That actually gives me MORE comfort instead of less. And another guy mentioned a 4 max window as well. 4 years to get to a championship is pretty much all you can ask for. ALL the star players currently have a 4-6 year window depending on age, team makeup, and years before they become a free agent.

    If there was absolutely no chance of a championship, like Michael Redd with the Bucks, then yeah lets see about dealing him. I'm definitely for listening to offers regardless. Some team might be dumb enough to deal in your favor.

    Rockets tried to pursue Rashard Lewis in free agency. It'da surely meant other guys on the team were getting dealt if he'da signed, but it showed maaaybe they'll go slightly above the cap to get some good pieces. Before the season it certainly wasnt from a lack of trying. Bonzi, Francis & Mike James just didnt pan out for various reasons. Rockets also pursued Brent Barry hard, so it wasnt like they were totally content.
     

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