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Time To End Foreign Aid To Israel? Rand Paul's Thoughts.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rockets R' Us, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I stated earlier what I think might happen with cutting off aid to Israel if aid to Egypt is cut a few things could happen. One is that the Mubarak regime collapses or else it retrenches even further as it feels it doesn't have to pay lip service to US concerns to get aid. Groups like Al Qaeda could use it as a propaganda piece to show how the US doesn't care about helping the most populous Arab country but that might be muted if aid to Israel is cut.

    I highly doubt cutting aid to both Egypt or Israel leads to war breaking out between the two or an abandonment of the Camp David Peace Treaty.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    Really? You honestly thought that I literally meant nobody ever in the history of the.world? I find that a bit difficult to believe.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Even taking your argument that only a few people are concerned that has been addressed several times in this thread so its not just a small handful of people that are looking into cutting aid to Egypt.
     
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    When we get even four or five theads per year about aid to Egypt, I'll feel a bit better about your point.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    You assertion into this thread kind of diverts from the original question.
    Am I to believe the best reason to keep aid going to Isreal is because we give aid to Egypt?

    Rocket River
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    The point is, outrage about "foreign aid to Israel" has as much to do with foreign aid as the Civil War has to do with state's rights. You would be better served with an I like/hate Israel thread.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    AAAHhh. I got you now.
    You figure this is more of an Anti-Semetic stance than anything.
    I understand.

    My personal curiousity is what is the impact the USA going to be a bit more Isolationist. At least with money

    Rocket River
     
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  8. Commodore

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    But we have no money.

    Why are we borrowing money only to lend it out again?
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    A reduction for sure. We can't provide aid forever. Israel has to take steps to be independent of us.

    And it also must comply with a peaceful solution to the stalemate. The continued building of settlements doesn't show good faith towards that but rather an expansion policy.

    I think aid should be tied to that. If Israel wants our help in military aid to defend herself, she needs to stop provoking her neighbors. I do not understand how building settlements does anything to provide greater security.
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    Foreign aid is a drop in the bucket, just like other things Republicans keep bagging on. (funding for the National Endowment for the Arts, the corporation for public broadcasting, etc..)

    Foreign aid is less than ONE PERCENT of the American budget yet we're going to cry and whine while defense spending continues to grow exponentially.

    Start focusing on actual solutions to the budget instead of token issues like foreign aid that simply serve to generate false anger and direct our attention to the wrong things.
     
  11. Thinhallen

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    Every percent counts. If you think that just because people are discussing this issue that other issues are left by the wayside, then I think you're mistaken. The military budget definitely has to be fixed. I think everyone is agreed upon that, but is there a way to dissect military spending and gauge what we feel is appropriate and what isn't?

    -thinnie
     
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    You aren't the only one RR, everyone else in the thread is debating the topic (foreign aid). This thread actually has potential for honest debate with both cons and libs agreeing on certain points. If this is antisemitism, then every China thread is sinophobic.
     
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  13. Mathloom

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    That's very unusual of you to say honestly.
     
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    I agree with you, except that this one percent seems to be contributing to the defense spending growing so it may be linked, right?
     
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    In my superior opinion, you are brutally stupid -- a brutally stupid troll.
     
  16. Johndoe804

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    And the same goes for this brutally stupid troll, Ottomaton.
     
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    Good post. You managed to insult people, add nothing to this discussion, and make yourself into a complete ass in one sentence. You should post more often and allow us to see more of your witty personality and superior intellect.
     
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    It's not about the budget, not to me. It's about giving foreign aid to nations that don't respect human rights.
     
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    Which is different than ending allforeign aid. I admire your position and agree with it. It was also at one point the position of the Carter administration.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Except the title of the thread is "Time to End Foreign Aid to Israel? Rand Paul's Thoughts" The title is somewhat misleading given Rand Paul was talking about all foreign aid but aid to Israel is the primary subject of this thread.
     

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