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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Doc Rocket, Jan 11, 2003.

  1. MManal

    MManal Member

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    Sane,

    I dont know why but Lamar Odom is just not the distributor he was pre-injury. I noticed his assist numbers are down this yr and realized when watching the Clipps-Sonics game that Odom is looking for his shot a lot more. I dont know if this is just b/c of contract year or what not, but Im seeing a totally different Odom out there; one that is looking for his shot a whole bunch.
     
  2. NIKEstrad

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    I give you Chad Ford...

    In response to Clippers possibly making any deals
    "Right. Olowokandi is gone. He reiterated that Wednesday night prompting GM Elgin Baylor to rip the Kandi man. I think they're mulling this over as we speak. With a normal owner, that's exactly what you do . . . but with Donald Sterling, he's more unpredictable. I think they'd like to keep Brand, Odom and Maggette if possible. Miller has played well, but he's more expendable. Given Miller's value, he should be able to get them something very good in return . . . a lot more than Mike Dunleavy. "


    Methinks Andre Miller is a pretty true PG. A very true PG at that.
     
  3. bigboymumu

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    Doc, Doc, Doc. Right when we are just about over you, here you are again!


    I don't know about the rest of you but I have a problem with the personality of the team. We have two players that absolutely bust their arse on the floor but they care as much about their stats as a win. Then we have players such as Cato and Mo that really aren't winners. Then we have players who seem emotionless.(EG, Posey, Boki) And we have a coach that has not done a very good job teaching a team concept or game fundamentals. I've been watching the Cavs play quite frequently lately. I really do not see the difference between their small players and ours. It's all about numbers for both teams. Too bad the numbers they are worried about gets them in the All-Star game and not in the Finals.
     
  4. moestavern19

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    Doctor of Rocket is exactly right, we have the nucleus of talent, but we have no leader. Steve is one of the most talented players in the game, but he often strays from the role of leading the team.

    We need someone who can direct the traffic, There is a difference between leadership by taking all the shots because of confidence, and leadership by taking all the shots because of no confidence in your teammates.

    Steve Francis is NOT a lone star on a bad basketball team, this team has a lot of talent. we need someone on this team to make the decisions on the court.
     
  5. bigboymumu

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    Alvin Williams!
     
  6. HotRocket

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    There's an idea, trade the Rockets best player for the al-mighty Andre Miller.

    With his amazing shooting abilities and leadership he should be able to turn this team around!

    No... I don't think so.

    Everyone's number one choice seems to be Miller. They claim Steve isn't a point guard because he shoots too much and he can't pass. I guess I can understand that, but why in the world choose Miller over Steve.

    The Clippers traded one of their younger stars for Miller, a player whom at the time I thought was going to be the future of their team. I guess after the trade I figured that they knew what they were doing, that they had enough insight to see that Miller would be the one player in the whole league whom would fix their team. So far the Clippers are bordering on medocre. They will be lucky if they can finish above .500 let alone make it out of the "lottery."

    If everyone want's a player who can keep his amazingly talented team well below .500, by all means take him. But I think I'll wait for Steve to mature, and for the rest of the Rockets to hit their freaking shots.
     
  7. NYKRule

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    *giggle*
     
  8. don grahamleone

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    I'd say welcome back, but that was a terrible post. Tell me more about how being an all around basketball player is a bad thing. I used to respect what came from your posts, now I just want to slander you. Steve is a great point guard who doesn't play the traditional way.

    Your opinions of cat is even worse than the crap you wrote about Steve. Yes, Cuttino would be an excellent 6th man, but you better have somebody that is pretty damned good in front of him. We got Cuttino for a good buy and he's enthusiastic about playing for Houston. I guess Sam Cassell should still be a 6th man too, huh Doc Rocket? Just because he CAN play from the bench doesn't mean he should.

    We are playing a hell of a lot better than last year. Our guys play hard and rarely give even 80% when they are on the floor(100%plus). This whole team is learning a new offense and has a starting center that never went through a substantial offseason. It's a pretty difficult thing to learn a new offense while you play.

    Before you post any more garbage, look at where we were, where we are and where we will be. You are gonna eat your words sooner than later. What happened to the fair minded posts of the past? Does it take a lottery season to make you a positive poster? Cheer up, we won and we will keep winning.
     
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    Forget Miller or Odom. They are not good enough to be championship winning players IMO. And Steve and Yao have the potential to be. Just keep the faith.
     
  10. NIKEstrad

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    Help me out here:

    Cuttino Mobley and "Rockets' best player" just don't sound synonymous to me.
     
  11. NYKRule

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    Tell me how many years he has played the point compared to Baron Davis. Do you realize that he might take that long to develop into a point?
     
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    It's not Andre Miler's fault that the Clippers suck. He's been there for how many games?

    The Clippers are a very bad team with very good players.
    The problem is that they have absolutely 0 chemistry. That goes for the entire organization whose futility is infamous in the NBA.

    Starting with miserly Donald Sterling all the way down, they are the epitome of stupid.

    No one wants to be on that team because theyre all worried about their contract or getting traded. How can you bond with teammates that you know probably won't be there next year. In fact, many are looking forward to leaving. You can see it in their eyes.

    This team will go nowhere and continue to go nowhere. It's up to the other teams in the league to exploit this and rob them of their many fine talents.

    By the way, there is no way the Clippers thought Darius Miles was going to be the future of that team. He's a great athlete who looks good but can't play. He's not a good basketball player.
     
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  13. saleem

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    When Steve Francis came into the NBA he said he didn't want to be a SG and wanted to play at the PG spot.Unless he changes his mind he will continue at his present position.
    I'm concerned that Francis/Moochie have a lot of problems with individual and zone defense and make a lot of mistakes and end up failing to bring the ball up the court.
     
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    I thought this thread was about Steve not being a point guard, but what do I know...


    Why would you want a player who's only goal in life is for another big contract. Steve has a huge love for the game, which is why I think he will grow and mature into the player everyone hopes he can be. If wasting money on someone playing for a big contract rather than wins is what you really want, then I don't think you really want to win either.
     
  16. bigboymumu

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    Garbage! Garbage is this crap we call a basketball team. The Rockets aren't a team. The Rockets are a bunch millionaires trying to get on Sportscenter! I am tired of paying for this crap, both on satellite and at the Comcrap Center. I can't tell you how tired I am of the bull I see from Cat and Steve. I can't stand watching MoT because the guy just doesn't hustle. Something has to give. Don't get me wrong. I love this team. I just hate this style!
     
  17. topfive

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    Another minor thing to consider is that Moochie's growth as a viable backup PG is stunted because he's learning from Stevie what a point guard does. Switching SF to the 2 and bringing in a true point guard would benefit both Steve and Moochie. And the team.
     
  18. NIKEstrad

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    Yeah, it's about Steve being a 2 guard, and therefore our need for a true point guard. Concurrently, it appears one of the best young, true PGs may be on the market. If you accept Steve as "not a point guard" and therefore a 2 guard, you can also accept that Mobley is expendable for a 1.
     
  19. RIET

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    Steve has a love for the game that's coupled with a maximum contract. Just because you want to be paid for your services doesn't mean you don't love the game. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    The difference between Steve Francis and the Clippers players is that he knew he would get paid while they don't. Donald Sterling is the cheapest owner in the league and everyone knows this.

    You can't blame the PG if the other players on the team spend half their time evaluating potential new homes.

    Olowakandi doesnt give a crap about the Clippers. He's playing for himself and his next big deal.

    When you have lame ducks on a team, it makes it that much harder for you to make it work.

    By the way, the Clippers are also 2-0 vs. the Rockets.
     
  20. bigboymumu

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    What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Moochie does not know how to play the point by now, he is never going to learn!
     

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