Nobody ever accused Yao of taking too many shots, too many 3's, too many forced shots. That's ingratiating. Yao does have weaknesses at this time, notably defensive and offensive boards, certainly driving me and other fans nuts. Pure stats doesn't tell the whole story. You are not giving him credit for not countable stats. Intimidations are sometimes better than block shots. When he's double teamed, he gets a lot of hockey assists. He's a good passer, a lot of his passes are so good that the driver is usually fouled and he gets no credit. No stats on shutting down the paint. There's probably a few more I don't have off hand at this time. Rockets will make the playoffs this year, that definitively proved that he made the team better.
At least sup123 is still around when the Rockets win/Steve has a good game. Basically, sup123 is a YOF while Juugie is a troll. One might not necessarily be much better than the other but there's a clear distinction.
A lot of posters that hate Steve and love Yao come close to being trolls, but I wouldn’t necessarily call them trolls. I think the primary reason that most of them joined here to was support Yao. Hating Steve is secondary to them. When they registered I don't think they were thinking "I'm going to join this board so I can bash Steve". You’re different Juugie because your sole purpose for being on this board is to bash Yao. There’s no doubt about it. You hardly post ANYTHING that is not Yao-hate related. When you registered, it is very likely you joined thinking "I'm going to join this board so I can bash Yao". Your post are 95% bash Yao, 5% support Steve. They are more like 40% bash Steve, 60% support Yao. I would rather have none of you guys here, but they are the lesser of two evils.
So true. Concerning sup123, i've seen him talk about subjects other than Yao so I know he is capable of it. With Juugie, its the same old Yao crap regurgitated over and over and over.... and his/her threads are timed perfectly right after a Rocket loss/bad Yao game. It's pretty pathetic and transparent. Stuart
wow..im getting mentioned in threads, i feel popular I do bashing where it is needed. Steve has been constantly performing bad thats why I bash the guy. Yao also has his ups and downs but he is in his second season. If steve were in his second season and not getting paid a max contract I wouldnt bash him so much. And i am not on this board just to bash steve and praise yao. Thanks for defending me MFW2310.
do i really talk about yao that much? ive only started a couple of threads about him. And a couple of threads about steve to (werent good ones but they were about steve).
I guess it's not the supporting Yao part but rather the bashing steve part annoying. Maybe you can try not be too hard on steve.
man i think yao needs to stop holdin on to da ball so long when he in da post. he catches it and do nothing with it. did he learn dat from francis???? he needs to be quicker.
agreed. but (to answer the question posed)...if you are under the impression that I never criticize Yao and ragon Steve constantly....you obviously have never read my posts. I actually defend SF more than he really deserves...but I hate to see so much vitrol aimed at him from supposed Rockets fans... and I have been yelled at by Yao fans when I dare to criticize Yao for not trying hard enough for rebounds. My main issue with you(Juugie), is that you stay quiet for the most part when Yao has a great game...and then when he has trouble...Here you are...spreading the SAME TIRED COMPLAINTS. I have equal problems with sup123, and yetti and a few others who seem to do nothing but repeat the same tired criticisms... It isnt that I think noone deserves to be criticized....but damn!....I can tell exactly what certain people are going to post before they do.....just because it is always the same tune. anyway. here I am...actually adding to a thread that I feel deserves to die....but you seemed to have the wrong impression of why I was giving you a hard time...and felt the need to clarify. btw...since someone quoted sup123 so I could see him........ Yes...you do. you are equally as bad as the others....where are you when SF(or Cat) plays a great game(team-wise)? It has happened a couple of times this season for SF and Cat has been for the most part a great team player this year....but do you bother to admit he(they) did well? no..you dont..
I guess the reason I seem to post when the Rockets have just had a bad game is because on the nights when Yao plays well, there will be a million "Yao is cool!" posts. No need to add another. I also can't believe some people have insinuated that I criticise Yao because he is Asian. If Yao played with consistant fire, determination and aggression, I'd be his biggest fan. I guess I have never been a fan of timid, weak play. And honestly, I think Yao plays timid and weak alot. I personally think Yao is a great guy and has a great personality. I think he has great skills. I don't think he has lived up to being the leader of this team. I I don't think he will ever do it the way he has been babied. If you like Yao and you want him to be succesful, then understand that he needs to know that he is being held to a higher standard. He needs to know that he is EXPECTED to go out and be a force every single night. And any nights that he is not and the team loses he will be held accountable. No more free ride. If we never hold him to a higher standard, he will never reach it.
i have gave credit to sf and cat when they had good games...i may have not started an own thread, but i did give them credit in game threads. if they derserve bashing i will bash to. I will bash yao to. Jeez people, lighten up.
Ok, I'll answer your questions, troll. Because the underlying rationale for supporting the more efficient O player is superior. Efficiency, efficiency, efficiency. No. It's irrationally always supporting Francis, regardless of his performance. I have yet to see many fans praise Yao when he plays poorly. You praise Francis regardless of his level of play. Ok. Francis takes the most shots. Doesn't that mean he's the person who should be blamed primarily for poor offensive output, after (perhaps), the coach? Incomprehensibly stupid. This isn't even a feasible question. It's so incoherent it's unanswerable. Be ashamed of this question. Why? Because the initial question presumes only that one wants Yao to be the leader while the follow-up presumes that he is. Essentially, you're first asking someone why they want a hypothetical state of being, then blaming current conditions upon that hypothetical state of being. Even if you believe the truth values satisfy those conditions, the question itself is incoherent as constructed. You want us to be rational? Yes. He's too passive, has too many off-shooting nights, often passes up good shots, and sometimes settles for jumpers when he's having success inside. THis is apparent if you actually read our posts. Steve is a 5th year player who has actually regressed. He's a PG who can't distribute teh ball effectively. A FOF blaming Yao for statistical failings is much like someone who got a 770 on the SAT making fun of someone who got a 1590 for the answer he got wrong. Questions answered. Cease and desist, troll (or imbecile... not sure which).
So why did you hate on him already before you have ever seen him play, as proven by your posts I pulled up? You never answered THAT question. You are biased.
I was not in favor of drafting Yao, but not becuase he was Asian. But because I believed that Odom and two lottery picks would be better for the team. Period. But since we are bringing the race card out into the open... I find it very interesting that the terms used to described most of the black players on the team - street or streetball, selfish, arrogant, bling-bling, dumb, idiot, hot dogging, weed head, etc - are very suspect. And I believe the reason why half of the people are so into Yao is because he ISN'T black. And if you look at most of the players people want to bring in here, more than half of them are white. I think there is a subtle backlash against black players - or at least the hip hop culture, going on. BTW, this is NOT meant to be falme bait, and I don't want this to start page after page of race talk, but I honestly believe it is going on and I think it is important to be said.
