Time for this loudmouth Longhorn to eat some crow...

You're going to take away about 80 percent of his material if you put those kinds of limitations on him.

 

I can agree with that. So, you'd be okay with a coaching change?

I'd be okay with it -- I certainly don't advocate it. I think Mack Brown has earned some time with the way he's turned the program around. But I'm still disappointed with the coaching thus far. I just want UT football to be fun, and right now it's really not. Even our wins -- I've been to all the home games for the last 5 or 6 years, and UNT and Houston this year were just two of the most boring games I've ever seen. OSU was boring too except for the fact that the score was close. We play really conservatively, don't let our playmakers make plays, play not-to-lose, etc.

I wish we'd just go get a young, creative offensive mind to be OC.

 

The ones suggesting firing Mack are tired of inability to lead the team in big games. A part of that lies with his coordinators. I don't want to go through OC's like RC, but obviously Davis has not gotten the job done. Some blame Davis, some blame Simms. Bottom line it's Mack's decision.

Mack will not be fired. One, we would have to buy out his multi year multi million dollar contract, and two, we would lose his recruiting prowess. Another reason Mack will not be fired is 60,000 season tickets sold and all suites at DKR TMS sold out for several years. Mack brings a lot of attention to the program...ABC, ESPN, etc.

Mack raised the bar himself by recruiting # 1 classes. We have talent. We have resources. We can't win a big game. Last year's loss in the Big 12 title game was an embarrassment. Redemption meant winning the Big 12 this year. The loss put us at the mercy of OU (OU will not lose 2 games).

Another reason for the high expectations in Austin is our rival in Norman. Bob Stoops in less time with less talent already has 1 national title and 1 conference title...more than Mack Brown in 17 seasons. Stoops now holds a 3-1 advantage over Mack, and has a 63-14 ass kicking in his records. Gary Barnett, a guy UT was interested in, already has 1 conference title. Hell, even RC Slocum has a conference title. The only guy who doesn't have a title is Bill Snyder.

Mack has shown improvement in his 4 years. His job won't be in jeopardy until he loses 4-5 games. A 3 loss season would be a disappointment, but he isn't going anywhere. When people say when will Texas win a big game, I ask them "Did UNC win a big game?"...I believe Mack's UNC team choked to Mackovic's UT team in the Sun Bowl.

I don't want a recruiter as head coach if the coordinators he delegates power to are incompetent.

 

And Simms failed miserably against that same team in a game that meant more. In big games Simms is more emotionally fragile than Crispin Glover on a meth binge. He doesn't just fail to execute, he completely unravels.

 

Do you think another coach like Mike Bellotti would not have turned around the program?

UT made a good hire in Mack, and I don't think his recruiting success or people skills can be duplicated, but any coach opposite of Mackovic could have turned the program around.

 

Exactly.

After a 4-7 year, could UT have been any worse?

I think if you bring in Bellotti, UT is still going to recruit their fair share of hosses.

Bellotti has a claim to being the best coach in the nation.

 

Funny thing is Mack would use his influence to get us to hire Greg Davis.

After Mack left Tulane, as outgoing AD, he convinced them to hire Greg Davis as head coach. Davis set the Tulane program back about 10 years, and when he was fired, he packed up and sewed himself to Mack's behind. He's been with Mack ever since.

 

This is a classic line!

Could be a possible candidate for a sig sometime in the near future!

 

Why did we only score 20pts vs NC State? Twenty frickin' points. That was one of NC State's best defensive performances of the year.

What about the O-Line and the inability to pick up blitzing linebackers? Bill Snyder out coached Greg Davis, and we never made adjustments.

And then against Stanford? Why did the Stanford offense ever get the ball back? We had the ball, and we could've and should've run the clock out. Two straight dives right into the teeth of the Stanford defense, and then asking Major to try and get ten yards in the teeth of a horrendous blitz. He did not, we punted, and the rest is history.

Blame Simms all you want, but that ignores the fundamental problem with our offense, the same fundamental problem we've always had.

We have uncreative playcalling, always have.

We telegraph our plays, always have.

We don't trust our athletes, any of them, to make plays, except versus vastly inferior opponents, or when we need a desperate comeback, and we never have trusted them.

Simms did not have a good game, he made two very bad throws that robbed BJ Johnson of a pair of touchdowns. He threw behind recievers a couple of times.

But that doesn't change the fact that the playcalling was atrocious, just like its always been. We asked our QB to perform in near impossible conditions - with telegraphed plays, and a complete fear to throw the ball over the middle for farther than 8 yards.

 

The Cat I don't know how you can seriously still defend Chris Simms. It's obvious to everyone except you and Mack Brown that Simms is not a good quarterback. I've been telling you that for two years now.

That reminds me, who in the heck wrote that article recently projecting Simms as THE #1 pick in this year's draft? Oooops...

 

Now, wait a second. You don't put up the kind of numbers Simms did last year unless you're a good quarterback. We're talking specifically about his play in big games. In games against UNC and A&M (2000) and Colorado (regular season), he's looked fairly good.

It's asinine to say he's "not a good quarterback". I think it's accurate to say he folds in big games for a variety of reasons, many of which are his fault.

Um, no one? I don't ever remember a writer touting Simms as the No. 1 overall pick.

 

I don't think that Simms personally performed that poorly on Saturday. I think that UT could have opened the offense up a LOT more.

BTW, it was the announcers during the game who said Simms may be a #1 pick.

 

No, not really. It's obvious to those who have always hated him and want to make him the scapegoat perhaps. I'm really not sure how Saturday's performance would affect his draft status. He didn't really play well or poorly.

He really only had one bad throw the entire game, which was the slant that Strait read. Of course, Shanahan quit on the route too, but nevertheless Simms never looked off it. The pick in the first quarter was the same as a punt; it was taking a big chance downfield, and it just didn't work. It's amazing how UT fans were begging for us to do that all season (acknowledging the risk of a pick) and when they finally do it the blame goes to Simms. In the third quarter, it was just bad luck. He hit BJ in the hands, it wasn't caught, and it got popped up.

He also had a couple of brilliant throws, including the one to Roy in the first quarter, and several again dropped by his receivers. Truthfully, he didn't make enough plays to win, but that's kind of hard when your primary receivers rarely run beyond 10 yards.

I really, really hope Simms gets out of this region when he's drafted. A pathetic offense scores 35 points, a below average running back rushes for 248 yards, and most plays aren't run beyond 10 yards, and people are looking at him like he's the one that lost the game. He didn't win it either, but very few quarterbacks do against that kind of a defense.

 

Guys,

Simms is a decent QB, but he just simply does not have "IT" the intangibles needed to rally a team to his cause.

He does not RISE to the occasion and more often then not SHRINKS under pressure.

Simms is a one dimensional player, and until the Longhorns get him out of there and get a player that can do more then just throw the ball when he is perfectly still, they will constantly lose the big games.

I think V. Young will be the guy, he is another Michael Vick type player and it will open up SOOOOOO much with his scrambling ability.

Simms is simply a decent QB, who has a bad habit of choking in the big games.

Zero TDs and Fifteen Int.'s against top 10 opponents says a LOT about his play.

DaDakota

 

Can you name me a QB that has "it" whose receivers aren't running routes beyond 10 yards? Of course Vincent Young will be better for the offense-- he has the ability to throw like Chris, but the ability to run as well. The importance of that is more magnified in an offense where passing is very difficult. It doesn't mean anything bad for Chris; Vincent is just a more talented player.

If you'd read my post earlier in this thread, which clearly explained the 0-14 number, you'd partially understand it. TD-INT ratio is about the most worthless number in football unless you know the reasoning behind them... it's like win-loss record for a pitcher in baseball.

 

I cant stop laughing ..

just like vargas you talked a lot of noise..and just like vargas...anyway you cant go crass over class...thats what de la hoya shoulda taught you..

what was it you said before cat??that I must have never played football?? or imply that I dont know sh*t?? guess so right??

that the player only goes with the plays that his coach calls??

yeah i know that but last time I checked you dont see phil jackson lining up shaq at the 3 point line and you dont see randy johnson pinch hitting in games..

it comes down to ability and obviously your boy doesnt have it and you arguing this point or 'being right' about this is not going to happen..the argument is OVER...can you hear me? OVER..

move on and pick you battles because as lauryn hill says 'you might win some but you just lost one'

Beer at hooters and chicken wings: $60
wager on betonsports.com: $50
collective wager amongst the bevy of sorry UT fans: $30
winnings: $80
cost for UT: The national championship
Seeing Chris Simms thow 3 INTs..and making an A$$ out of the cat:

priceless

 

ohh yeah as heypartner would say

'next'

 

Cat,

Excuses, excuses....and most of them wrong.

Roy Williams ran a few fly patterns and on that last Simms Interception, he had someone running ALL ALONE down the left sideline....he never looked.

Simms is a product of hype, he does not get it done, and will be a BUST at the next level too.

He simply has ZERO intangibles, the guy can only throw when he is perfectly still, if anyone lays the EDGE OF A PINKY on him, he goes down.

Simms is the most overated QB I have ever watched.

He is a nice guy, but he is not a leader of a football team.

Clearly !

DaDakota