He also sacrificed the development of the team for KPJ who's no longer in the league. Fumbled the #2 pick. Has a roster that's mediocre AT BEST. Folks blaming Ime he didn't put this roster together, Stone(r) did and I call him stone(r) cause got to be high asf to still have tate on this roster!
Dude is god awful. I give him credit for the later picks but the lotto picks, all he did was pick the consensus. You look at the Celtics who could have went with the consensus in the 2017 draft but traded back to get Tatum. They used foresight and not mock drafts. You can blame the players for failing which is fair but the onus goes to the GM for drafting them. You get 3 top 4 picks and you end up with that...
Pretty much said that he is a lawyer and should be used as a former lawyer negotiating and overseeing contracts......
It’s been long past time. Hiring Silas and an attempted build around Olidipo, Wood, KPJ and Jalen as his foundational moves tells us all we need to know. The lack of significant deal-making to improve the team during a 4-yr rebuild also tells us a lot. Getting punked by Brook Lopez and having Jock Landale as plan B tells us a lot. I could go on.
Stone sucks, he's picked one good player out of all the FRPs we had and then he still tried to replace him with Brook Lopez. Sucks at handing out contracts and even worse at making trades. Giving up multiple players for free (Tyty, KJ, JayGup). Also, ppl forget he tried to pay Oladipo a huge contract, thank god he turned it down and gambled on himself (and failed). Wasting time on KPJ by giving him the reins and same with Wood. Hiring Silas, one of the worst coaches in the league. Paying Jock Landale and almost assuredly he won't address our needs of 3pt shooting and backup center at the deadline.
LOL.... He scarified the development of the team in order to tank and potentially get Wemby. We are mediocre coming out of the worst consecutive seasons in our franchise history and anyone who thought we wouldn't be mediocre is just an optimistic fool or just not knowledgeable about basketball.
No..... Stone planned on tanking and Tilman bought in. He's clearly not a top 15 GM, but you are clearly outright dismissing the intentional tanking because your expectations out of line with reality. Outside of the Rockets sphere, we have taken a major step towards respectability. We were never building around "WOW" + KPJ. Dipo was never going to sign an extension here. 4 year rebuild include 3 seasons of historical franchise tanking and we are still overachieving this season.
The Rockets are FAR ahead of schedule & better than all the teams rebuilding. Ime Udoka may be COY and the guy who hired him is awful? The Rockets may be double their win total from last year lol
It's pretty weird to me that you guys are so critical of Stone. I think he's done a great job. Sure, he's made some mistakes. But most of you slob Presti's knob and he traded James Harden away for Kevin Martin and a couple picks so that he could keep Kendrick Perkins and Serge Ibaka. Mistakes happen to even the best GMs. Jalen seems to be a miss. Sure. but hey, he robbed the almighty Presti for Sengun in the same draft. Jabari is looking great though and I can envision him being a Kevin Garnett level player even. And Tari? My gawd. Obviously the jury is still out on Amen and Cam but I like what I'm seeing from Amen and I love what I'm seeing from Cam. Some of the things you guys criticize him for are weird to me. Christian Wood, KPJ, rehabbing Oladipo - those are all gambles worth taking when you're going to be in a full rebuild. They didn't work out. If they had, we would have had another fantastic asset. I don't feel like any of those experiments really hurt us and the only argument I can see to say that they did was that it stunted Jalen Green's development. I think that would be a silly argument to make though, because it certainly didn't hurt Sengun. Jalen just doesn't seem to have that dog in him. None of those moves could possibly have caused that. If you expected him to sign big free agents when we're in a full rebuild, well, that's silly. No star players are looking to join a team who plans to remain at the bottom of the standings. I think criticizing the Theis signing, the Landale signing - valid. But FVV and Dillon Brooks have exceeded most of our expectations so those were home runs for him. If you expected him to make big trades during that period, well, that's silly too. Our only assets were young guys and draft picks and we needed those to keep rebuilding. Personally, I think he did a great job early on with the Harden trade (a lot of you guys were mad he didn't trade for Ben Simmons at the time), he did a great job of turning the rest of the roster into picks too. Covington. Tucker. etc. I do wish he would have moved Gordon sooner, but we see this year that it really is important to have a professional or two on the roster to set the tone. Udoka was also a homerun. If he really planned to trade Sengun if we acquired Lopez, then he's an idiot. No argument. But I think that's really just hearsay. I've not seen anything that has led me to believe that's a fact. I expect we're going to finish .500 or close to it, which is well beyond my wildest expectations for the season. Meanwhile, take a look at teams like the Pistons or Charlotte, who sucked well before we did. He turned around this ship in a very short span of time. And I see a lot of room for the team to grow. I think we have one of the best young cores in the league and I'm super excited about the future of this team. And that's pretty much all to Stone's credit.
Stone has been mediocre at best... wasted the 'tank years' by allowing the toxicity to continue (kpj, wood, weak silas, etc...) instead of building a culture... when u dont care about wins is the window to be a hard azz on fundamentals, team building, accountability... we wasted how many minutes on guys that arent even on the team anymore... smdh... drafting has been lackluster... consensus picks n a prayer... a few good late pix - but also wasted frps we jettisoned for nothin... wheelin n dealin seems to be about a wash... i guess he got decent value most of the time... flubbed not moving ego sooner - but got lucky Cam dropped... i call it all a wash... free agency... i call it decent... i liked DB n FVV - reasonable deals imo... some other are headscratchers... overall... dude has been unimpressive... seemed far to happy sitting on his hands doing nothing - waiting for 'the process' to work... as opposed to taking some swings... im starting to think that its all a set up... so we'll all be so happy when he's kicked to the curb... ...that the rumblings about nepotism will be minimal when tilly shoves jr into the role...
Stone has poor judgement and there are so many examples of this in the 4 seasons he’s been at the helm of the org. Sorry.
The team has significantly improved in several areas from last year, and we're on pace for an above-30-win season as most of the board predicted at the beginning of the year, which was a realistic expectation. The tanking was intentional to gain draft picks and assets which we did, people sometimes underestimate just how long or difficult the rebuild process can typically take.
You guys want to make Stone a bad GM SO bad lol. Rockets last season 22-60 Rockets currently 19-22 All we need to see here
That’s like saying a Pistons coach who doubles wins next year and goes 10-72 should be coach of the year and the GM is doing great. Any NBA coach following Stone hire Silas will look good. Stone has put together a team that is nowhere close to a title and is too small and the players don’t compliment each other well. Stone is an egotistical self infatuated horrible gm.
I was HOPING for 35 wins this year and growth in our young guys. The vets have been better than expected. Sengun took a huge step Green died in the world of organised basketball - I probably didn't expect that... Stone has done a fair job. I think his first draft there were a number of suspect picks, but Alpy seems to have panned out to all-star level. Let's see if Jabari takes a leap next year - he seems to be on the right track. Whitmore seems crazy advanced for his age. I'd be dealing Green at the deadline just to free up P/T for Whitmore.
