Hayes and glynch, there is only one outlet for this personal vendetta you two seem to harbor. Two men enter! One man leaves! Two men enter! One man leaves!
Released: September 03, 2004 John Zogby, the first to predict “The race is Kerry’s to lose,” tells Wall $treet Week with FORTUNE viewers that investors are moving in Bush”s direction to Kerry’s peril. http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=858 Zogby identifies "make or break" battleground constituencies... As Republican delegates say goodbye to the glitter and fanfare of Madison Square Garden, self-identified investor voters say they now favor President Bush over John Kerry by an eleven point spread (49% vs. 38%) according to a Zogby/Wall $treet Week with FORTUNE poll conducted on August 30th through September 2nd. In tonight’s post RNC Convention episode of PBS’s Wall $treet Week with FORTUNE, Zogby will be interviewed by Karen Gibbs, W$WwF co-anchor, where he will announce that President Bush now has the advantage of a double-digit lead among self-identified Investor Class voters. Of those voters who identify themselves as owning stock, 54% say they would vote for Bush compared to 34% for Kerry’s 20 point difference. In analyzing the poll data, Zogby will probe the “make or break” role of two key groups, the Investor Class, and the Undecideds, both of whom are increasing in numbers and potential impact as Campaign 2004 speeds toward election day. Both the Investor Class and the Undecideds may prove to be battleground constituencies for Kerry. The poll indicated that Kerry’s support fell as the number of undecided voters rose, suggesting that by [August 30th] some of the Senators supporters may have lost confidence in him and joined the ranks of the undecided. Zogby International conducted interviews of 1,001 likely voters chosen at random nationwide. Of these likely voters, 307 described themselves as “members of the investor class” All calls were made from Zogby International headquarters in Utica, N.Y., from August 30th through September 2nd. The margin of error is +/- 3.2 percentage points. Slight weights were added to region, party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the voting population. Margins of error are higher in sub-groups. Numbers have been rounded to the nearest percent and might not total 100. _______________________________________________________ Released: September 02, 2004 Bush Runs Offense and Leads Kerry by 2 Points; President Rallies Troops and Stumps on Leadership, Strength and Decisiveness; New Zogby America Poll Reveals http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=857 President George W. Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney have taken a two point lead over Massachusetts Senator John Kerry and North Carolina Senator John Edwards (46%-44%), according to a new Zogby America poll. The telephone poll of 1001 likely voters was conducted from Monday through Thursday (August 30-September 2, 2004) during the Republican National Convention in New York City. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.2. Presidential Ticket % (July 6-7) Bush-Cheney- 46% Kerry-Edwards-48% Undecided-5% (July 27-29) Bush-Cheney-43% Kerry-Edwards-48% Undecided-8% (Aug 30-Sept 2) Bush-Cheney-46% Kerry-Edwards-44% Undecided-9% Pollster John Zogby: “The President has had a very good convention following a good week where he also dominated the news with his own message: leadership, strength, decisiveness. Not only has he dominated the news but he also has thrown Kerry off his game. Last week I said the President’s top goal from the convention was to make sure his Republican ducks were all in a row. He needed to bring back and strengthen his ties with both wavering moderates (concerned about Iraq) and deficit hawks. His messages have clearly elucidated why the war and why the spending. This is the first time this year that the President has achieved 90% support among Republicans. He has also strengthened his numbers among investors. “The President has widened his lead in the Red States and tightened things up considerably in the Blue States. For the first time in months he now leads among Independents and Catholics. “While the President has improved his numbers, he still has a negative re-elect, job performance, and wrong direction. “So the battle is now engaged. I have written before about the metaphor of the bouncing rubber ball. Take a rubber ball and bounce it as hard as you can. Then the laws of physics take over. The President has gotten three preceding bounces – each one shorter in height and duration. I think this week is the fourth bounce of the ball: this time only into the higher forties and perhaps only lasting a week or so. “Remember that two weeks after the Democratic Convention of 2000, Newsweek’s cover story asked if Al Gore could be stopped. There will be leads and drops for both candidates and Kerry has to sharpen his message. At the same time, the economy is still the top issue and Friday’s unemployment figures will give us a hint as to whether the President will continue on the offensive or go back on the defensive. Zogby International conducted telephone interviews of 1001 likely voters chosen at random nationwide. All calls were made from Zogby International headquarters in Utica, N.Y., from Monday, August 30 through Thursday, September 2, 2004. The margin of error is +/3.2 percentage points. Slight weights were added to region, party, age, race, religion, gender and presidential voter to more accurately reflect the voting population. Margins of error are higher in sub-groups.
Am I saying straight up ? What? I said Ill bet anyone the Time poll is off. This election isnt going to be a landslide either way. Clinton only beat Bob Dole by 8 points for god's sake , and Bush is going to win by 11 ? I dont think so.
Bush has double digit lead according to time but loses by a margin of 4 to 1 in the clutchfans D&D forum.
In all seriousness. I'm waiting for the Democrats to get down and dirty in this election. So far the Republicans have been throwing mud around like Grave Digger at a monster truck rally...
What type of whine would you like to go with your cheese? To act as if the dems have been oh-so-civil in this is a joke. You do know how much money was spent on their 527 ads, don't you?
Would you like to lay off the clichés? What talking points have DOMINATED the airwaves for the past several months? Even you can realize that the Republican attack ads have come in faster and harder than Democrats have. I'm not saying the Democrats are innocent, they'll probably start firing back sometime soon.. if they're smart..
Not all 527's are mud slinging. Some certainly are. But not all. Would you care to mention specific 527's that haven't already been denounced by Kerry? I posted a thread where asked for incidents of the Kerry folks distorting Bush's record for political gain or mudslinging. I've posted several examples where the GOP has distorted Kerry's record, and not one of the people who trumpted those distortions has had a comment on it. As far as I can tell the mud slinging is way more from one side than the other. I'm open to any evidence to the contrary. Let's compare the two conventions Key Note Speakers. Barak Obama who talked about the nation being one, despite differences and not going the direction that those who seek to divide would have us go. The Gop's keynote speaker was Zell Miller who went on a frothy mouth anger filled tyrade that was divisive and uncivil.
I agree that the Swift Boat ads have come "harder" than the ones the dems have put out. That's obvious. But the Kerry 527's have far outnumbered the republican ads as a whole. And I'll agree with you again (twice in one reply!) the dems should hit back if they still want to have a shot at winning.
A question about post-convention polls numbers. Do they tend to stick, or are they just temporary bounces? If the advantages are fairly permanent and the conventions are suppose to balance each other, then this looks to be a bad sign for Kerry. I agree with you in a general sense. I never found democrats to run more positive campaigns on average. However, this year's presidential election is quite different. The reason is simple. Kerry doesn't have to run a smear campaign because Bush has so many real weak points already. Why make up something to attack your opponent when you can use real ones?
