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Tim Purpura = terrible GM

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by xcrunner51, Dec 19, 2005.

  1. MadMax

    MadMax Member

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    probably not much worse.
     
  2. Bassfly

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    Listen dude I dont know why you keep quoting me and replying back to me. I don't want to argue with you. Josh Beckett has nothign to do with this thread. Josh Beckett, from a pitching prospective, arguably had one of the most dominating performances in the 2003 world series. If you wouldnt want to trade for a 25 year old developing ace who hasnt peaked yet for prospects that 80% of the fan base hasnt even heard of then that's your opinion. Lowell's 9mill doesnt concern me because he's done after this year and it's not my money. The trade would be all about acquiring Beckett
     
  3. Xenon

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    I think I predicted 2nd or 3rd place last season. I think I'll go with 3rd again this season. The Brewers look pretty good this season.

    You can bookmark this for later use. I'll be doing the same on this thread.
     
  4. Xenon

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    There went common sense. Right out the window. Whoosh.
     
  5. MadMax

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    and bingo was his name-o.
     
  6. MadMax

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    fine bookmark it. i don't care. i'm not saying they're going back to the world series. i'm saying i can't tell you where they're going until the offseason plays out. if you want to rank a team prematurely, fine.
     
  7. DVauthrin

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    The Brewers look better than the Astros? You have to be freaking kidding me. And I even recognize they are getting competitive. But fine, whatever you say.
     
  8. MadMax

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    wait...what was the record?
     
  9. DVauthrin

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    15-17. Factoring in the postseason appearances, 16-19, unless you count his 18 inning win, which makes it 17-19.
     
  10. Xenon

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    With Clemens as the starter or with a hypothetical Wandy or Zeke? I'm sure a stat geek can work that out for us. Anyway, I have to go soon.
     
  11. Major

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    1. Lowell has 2 years left on his contract.

    2. How do you know Beckett hasn't peaked yet? His stats have not improved over the past 3 years.

    3. I keep quoting and replying to you because that's what you do on a message board. If you didn't want discussion or responses, why are you posting?

    4. 2 starts is not a sample size to make a judgement based on. It leads to very, very bad things. (see Kelvin Cato)

    5. If you're making decisions on prospects based on whether fans have heard of them or not, you're going to run the team into the ground. Perhaps we should have traded Oswalt for Kerry Wood when Wood was the Texas fireballer and no one had heard of Oswalt?

    6. That's nice that you don't care about the money since its not yours. Teams and GMs make decisions do care. And they don't make stupid decisions to take on salary and trade away their best prospects because a guy pitched 2 great games 3 years ago and is from Houston.
     
  12. Bassfly

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    A general comment to all of you Drayton/Purpura apologists. I really don't understand you guys. Houston is a burdgeoning baseball town. We deserve as much respect as NY/Boston. Look at what Chicago has done, they just had their dream season. did they sit around and say "Let's count on us reproducing the same success we had last year?" No, they went out and made transactions to improve their team. Their management went above and beyond for their fans.

    You guys are really content on just being competitive and hoping to be in the playoff chase during the last week of the season. You guys like to attack me like I'm some bad guy. News flash .. I love the Astros as much as anyone, and I'll root for them with any roster they put out there.

    None of you even admit that improvements should be made. You just blindly support this fat dude Purpura and trust everything he does like he's your cult leader or something.

    I'm in the frame of mind that our team has regressed since last season and improvements need to be made if we count on building on last year. You Drayton/Purpura apologists are in the frame of mine that our team has regressed last year and improvements should be made, but if not I trust Purpura did as much as he could and we might have a once in a lifetime season like we did last year. I dont get it
     
  13. MadMax

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    bassfly -

    i think you're misreading what most of us are posting:

    1. most are hoping for some move...but not a move for the sake of making a move.

    2. the jury is out on pupura. though you'll have a hard time convincing me he did anything but the right thing in keeping guys like Chris Burke around instead of trading them off for spare parts.

    3. it's december 20th. i can't judge the offseason until the offseason is complete. to do so is to be overly negative without reason. you don't give up on a baseball team in June. and you don't judge an offseason in December.
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Not a "stat geek" but I can however do basic math.

    "ExW-L and ExWP are derived from Bill James' Pythagorean theorem of baseball: Runs scored [squared] / (Runs scored [squared] + runs allowed [squared]). This formula was designed to relate a team's runs scored and runs allowed to its won-lost record." -- espn.com

    Our hypothetical Astros starter allowes 4 runs per game. Over 32 starts that's 128 runs. The Astros scored 123 runs in Clemens's 32 starts.

    The Expected W/L is.....drumroll please.....

    15-17.

    If our hypothetical Astros allowed 5 runs per game, the record drops to 11-21.

    This, of course, all means nothing, just like the rest of the posts in this thread.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Oh wow. Now the Drayton/Purpura blind followers are making the case that because the Astros record in Clemens' starts was below .500, that somehow he is not valuable to the team? I've read it all. What kind of backwards logic is that. Let's see here. Purpura doesn't go out and get a bat. No runs are scored when Clemens pitches. Clemens sucks. Yes that's it! Brilliant.

    The apologists have hit a new low.

    And Bassfly and MaxMax -- some of it IS your money. Your tax dollars are helping out on financing (68%) that brand new stadium that Drayton is profiting from. OOPS! Bingo was Max's FLOP-O.
     
  16. MadMax

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    except of course mine, which mean i have way too much time on my hands while hanging out in Little Rock, Arkansas.
     
  17. MadMax

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    1. your reading comprehension is totally sweet. just like ninjas. no one said clemens sucks.

    2. yeah...i'm out renting cars and staying in hotels in the city where i own a car and live in my house all the time.

    3. how far up in baseball did you say you played again?
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    Can't judge it in Spring Training either. People need to calm the hell down.
     
  19. Baqui99

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    Stay the course.
     
  20. gunn

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    With the amount that you post, I'm begining to think you have too much time on your hands whether you are "hanging out" or working. Your either in a postion that I want to be in, or a position that I really don't want to be in.
     

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