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Tim Hardaway: 'I Hate Gay People'

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Faos, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. JeopardE

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    #1. Yes, I'm black, so I do have some background there. #2. I believe there's a distinct difference between believing homosexuality is immoral/disagreeing with the lifestyle and being intolerant of it. Bigotry is when you decide that you're going to treat someone differently than a normal person because of what they believe, what they do or who they are. There should be nothing wrong with people holding their beliefs - religious or otherwise -- but when they begin to treat someone else as less than a person because they disagree with them, that's when it is wrong. So stating that African Americans are more likely to be morally opposed to homosexuality is not the same thing as accusing them of bigotry.
     
  2. Sextuple Double

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    Blasphemy is the only unforgivable sin.
     
  3. hotballa

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    playing the bemused observer today meowigi? i know you got something to say on the subject ;)
     
  4. zoork34

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    how about, its not normal to stick your penis in someone's craphole. thats a pretty good argument.
     
  5. BrieflySpeaking

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    lol, of course what everyone thinks is their opinion, and all i've said is my opinion.
     
  6. Sextuple Double

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    Everything in society is judged and everyone is a bigot. If it wasn't that way, then words like f*** and s*** won't be censored on this board, or anywhere period. You could go to Church and the pastor could say "Praise the mother****ing Lord!!!" People in the church would judge him on the spot.

    Everybody in the world is a bigot and judgmental in one way or another. The only person who isn't judgmental or a bigot is he who is without sin.
     
  7. jo mama

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    stop trying to spoil my fun! i have my share of posts in here on the topic. i didnt start anything...hotballa called me out by name - as a southern gentleman, i was forced to defend my honor and clear my good name.

    keep the nba dish civil: it takes two to tango!
     
  8. MR. MEOWGI

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    according to the Centers for Disease Control’s National Survey of Family Growth, it’s rapidly becoming a regular feature of hetero couples’ horizontal activities.

    The survey, released last year, showed that 38.2 percent of men between 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex.
     
  9. jo mama

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    again, it has nothing to do with how you express yourself and everything to do with your denial and continual arguing against rock-solid facts.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    Yeah, but some at least try.
     
  11. professorjay

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    I totally agree with this. You know what? I thought this thread belongs in NBA Dish. It's a sad situation that a thread w/ this title actually sparks a debate and needs to be moved to d&d. I never thought a statement "I hate gay people" would need to be debated but evidently it still does. This thread makes me really glad I don't have to have this type of discussion w/ any of my friends or circle of people I hang out with.
     
  12. JeopardE

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    See, even that attitude is not right. I know it's the natural tendency to want to do that sort of thing -- avoid them like a disease. But we're supposed to do the exact opposite -- you should be going out of your way to love those people even though you disapprove of what they do. The very reason many people hate Christianity and think we're all a bunch of hate-filled zealots is because of stuff like this. The oft-ridiculed cliche "WWJD" could never be more appropriate here -- the fact is that Jesus publicly associated with those people who were considered to be the most immoral and sinful, and that's how he won them over.
     
  13. CBrownFanClub

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    This is hilarious. Next time:

    Mel Gibson: "Jews ruin the world, have big noses, make me mad, make money, and I hate them."
    Someone like you: "I agree."
    Someone who thinks you should be called out: "Really - that's terrible."
    Someone like you: "Did i ever say i HATED them? no, i agreed with him, but not on the hate part."

    Is it possible that same part of the brain that is not accountable for the words we say is also responsible for massive bigotry and prejudice?

    Probably not, but in this instance, its kind of a cute coincidence. Please please send your aforementioned "gay friends" this link, I want their take.
     
  14. astrorockette

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    Ah. I just wanted to know. I see your point. I think I read it backwards the first time and that is my fault. Sorry for not putting my critical thinking skills to work there.

    I don't think black people are anymore morally oppossed to it than anybody else but I could be wrong. I've always thought that black people were always more likely to be tolerant, but never that they are more prone to being against it. Maybe my family is just more liberal than most.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Actually it isn't a pretty good argument. Being different than what you consider normal doesn't make something wrong.
     
  16. astrorockette

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    Please find that in the bible for me. I pretty sure thats forgivable too.
     
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    like i said in my earlier posts, im guessing hardaway doesnt really hate them, he just doesnt agree with their lifestyle, and thats what i agreed on.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    That doesn't mean being a bigot and being judgemental is ok.
     
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  20. JeopardE

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    It's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that is specifically mentioned as the only unforgivable sin... in fact Jesus made a point of saying that any other kind of blasphemy is forgivable. - Mark 3:28-29.
     

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