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Tim Grover: McGrady is ready

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bob718, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. EssTooKayTD

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    To what end though? Ariza plays better D, we have plenty of people on the squad that can play D but are lacking on the offensive end.

    Rick's system seems all good and dandy. But it's the plays of the players that end up deciding games. Tracy was never able to make enough plays (some will argue his teammates didn't make enough, no need to even discuss that point) to take the teams he was on past the first round, but do we seriously think Ariza should be that person? Because that's what the organization and the coach are trying to shop to us now until Yao returns.

    Actually, let me take a step back. Regardless of who I think should be getting Ariza's minutes, it just really irks me that he is getting all that run for someone who is being forced to do things he just is not good at. Where is the brilliant coaching in that?

    Do you adjust your system around your players which most winning coaches seem to do (and what Rick had done until this season's "isoing" of Tracy), or do you try to force players to play outside their abilities? Is that what he's going to do to Yao?

    Yao does not need to be playing a BMiller type role. He should be in the paint on the blocks, period. I don't care if be clogs the lane for the cutters and slashers. His FG% and FT% are among if not the best on the team.

    Rick's playstyle seems to be based off of opportunity buckets. Both in a halfcourt set (back screens and the likes) and on the break. Your best opportunity buckets lie in getting the ball in the hands of your best players to let them do what they do best.

    If it's about winning games, then Ariza's current role is no bueno, that's all I'm sayin. Tracy or no Tracy.

    I used to lobby for him to get Ariza's minutes, but seeing as the team and he have agreed to part ways, I say give them to Chase and/or Taylor.

    Just my humble opinion.
     
  2. pigmeat

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    cosign
     
  3. Kham

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    yoo !
    Well, TMaC will be traded , really baad for all Tmac fan ... So I try to make a special mixe about him.
    It shows what he accomplished during the years with rockets uniform, I Just put some great moments and bad cause of his injuries.
    Despite his talent , injuries take over all and don't let him show his true Basketball...
    Now we just wish the BEST for TMAC !
    Good watching ;)

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  4. meh

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    Actually, the old Tracy was very consistent. To say he failed us at any time back when he was posting 25/5/5s is doing him a great disservice. Despite hoping the Rockets would ship T-Mac out asap, I am still glad for his services during his first few years here.

    Every player has off games. It's the nature of the beast. Even players who shoot 50% means he'll still miss half the time. The Rockets/Magic could not succeed in the T-Mac eras because he never had overwhelming talent to cover for bad games. And when you don't have a huge talent advantage, it's easy to have bad bounces and early playoff exits.

    That said, none of that is relevant to the discussion of T-Mac now. If he is even close to his former self, Morey and Adelman would be kissing his ass right now, not kicking him to the curb. T-Mac today shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as the one who scored 13 in 33.
     
  5. bbjai

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    I'm all for getting rid of Yao even last year he was pathetic in consistency during the playoffs
     
  6. Uprising

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    Nice mix.

    +1 rep​
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    WTF? No, he wasn't......you can't get 25 points on 15 shots one day and then 25 points on 30 shots the next and call them both consistent.

    SHEESH !

    DD
     
  8. wheelmi

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    No offence, but there is more to consistency than just shooting %. He was consistent in assists/rebounds, he consistently drew multiple defenders giving his team mates more opportunities as well. He also consistently did not play defence...

    Besides, I think you are incorrect in your assumptions. Tracy rarely took only 15 shots in a game. I haven't tried to research this, but my guess would be that he took closer to 25 shots in every game. Your argument that we was not an efficient shooter is valid, but that he was not consistent is another story.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    He was inconsistent as hades in his scoring efficiency, which IMO, hurt the team overall in trying to advance in the playoffs.

    When someone dominates the ball as much as he does, they better be effiicient AND consistent, and Tmac wasn't.

    Anyway...doesn't matter, it will all be over soon.

    DD
     
  10. anchel

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    You better stop the hate. I remember George Karl saying several times "he's the best player in the league", with Tracy IN HOUSTON.
     
  11. MandM's

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    REALLY?

    all i know is...without yao we don't beat ptl
     
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    Wow that was pretty good.. But for all those great moments he had some equally bad ones. I loved the 1st year he wore the Rockets Uni.. After that he just became a jump shooter and lost a step to get by his man.. I do miss the Old Tracy though...

    Oh well come on down Chris Bosh your the next contestant on the show. :)
     
  14. meh

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    EVERYONE'S inconsistent by your standard. Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, there's not a single star wing who doesn't have bad nights. See how many 25 points on 30 shots Kobe put up before Gasol went there.

    If you're holding T-Mac to such ridiculous standards, then technically there is no good wing player on this planet.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    The difference is that all the guys you named are MORE efficient, and MORE consistent, and thus have MORE success.

    Tmac wants to be as consistent as them, is paid like them, but is not as good as them.

    Only fools think he is.....FOOLS !

    DD
     
  16. meh

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    You really thought T-Mac was not one of the best back 2004-2008(injury riddled times notwithstanding)? Seriously?

    Man, I can't believe you would say that as such a huge Rockets fan. I don't even like T-Mac as a person. But even I'm sad that revisionist history on Tracy makes him out to be a scrub.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    No, I got caught up in the lie that is Tmac as well as anyone else, but as the talent got exposed by the lack of efficiency, or committment, I realized that under all that fancy wrapping was a box of sand.

    Probably the most talented player that has accomplished the least in the history of the NBA.

    DD
     
  18. tinman

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    T-Mac = the hype when Time Warner and AOL merged

    Rocket fans = shareholders who bought that stock back then
     
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    Dude wasn't ready when we got him from Orlando. :grin:
     
  20. janpwnz

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    His explosiveness is not even close to where he used to be. I guess Timmy meant he's ready to clang at the rim again.
     

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