I am pulling for what is good for this country, and right now Obama/Biden is a lot stronger than McCain/Palin. DD
I am pulling for what's good for the country as well, and right now I don't know that either ticket is.
+1. Here's how I see it: Obama would be good for the country in terms of social issues and civil liberties. Even though I don't agree with him on the abortion issue (I'm a libertarian I still have an objection to abortions - an objection that I struggle to reconcile with my belief that the government doesn't have any say in personal issues), I think in terms of most civil liberties issues, Obama is ahead. In terms of the economy I think both would be disasters for the country, though in different ways. In terms of finishing the war in Iraq, I'm not quite sure who has the edge here though Obama has begun to shift his hardcore position recently to a more reasonable position. I'm not sure if I can overlook my objections to Obama's economic policies enough to vote for him. I'm not sure I can overlook my objections to McCain's social policies enough to vote for him.
I'm almost dead aligned with you my friend. I'm anti-abortion because I don't think it IS a personal issue, but that's neither here nor there. I also agree that both are not economically to my liking. To be honest, socially abortion is the only issue I strongly feel one way or the other about.
You know what? I don't agree with either one of them on everything. I mean let's go down my list...for giggles. 1. Pro Choice 2. Gun Control 3. Lower Taxes 4. Smaller government 5. Decreased military budget 6. National healthcare 7. Pro Death penalty 8. Fiscally conservative 9. Pro Internet gambling 10. Seperation of Church and state Just to name a few. DD
Mine's worse. 1. Pro-life 2. Moderate gun control 3. Lower taxes-but not a universal belief, only if possible 4. less government 5. decreased military budget due to streamlining 6. healthcare reform not socialized 7. anti-death penalty unless major death penalty statute reforms are enacted 8. fiscally conservative 9. pro internet everything, but I wish there was some major internet privacy laws that could be enacted. 10. separation of church & state
Using economic as a method for candidate choice is, IMO, silly. Both will tax you too much while spending too much. Think about how you are taxed, and what those taxes are to be used for. By that (admittedly ugly) logic I'm pro-Obama.
1. Pro Choice Yes 2. Gun Control Yes 3. Lower Taxes Yes 4. Smaller government Yes 5. Decreased military budget Yes 6. National healthcare Yes 7. Pro Death penalty Don't really care 8. Fiscally conservative Yes 9. Pro Internet gambling Don't really care 10. Seperation of Church and state Yes
I'm not sure how you plan to reconcile all these with each other but that's an interesting list of top issues.
It is hard....also on my list would be: 1. Dedication to alternative fuel sources 2. Tax breaks for companies that keep jobs in the USA 3. More money spent on domestic issues 4. Cutting off Israel and support for outside countries At the end of the day, no party is aligned completely with my views, so I just chose the one that is closest to what I think are the most important issues of the day. And, I also like to see the country swing back and forth from left to right, I think it keeps us healthy.....and we have gone FAR to FAR to the right. DD
The economy is an extremely important issue. What do you mean by how you will be taxed? Will Obama have a smile on his face when he takes my money? I admit that might be more pleasant than a McCain scowl.
I laughed. I should have said "who and how". I see nothing wrong with taxing the rich more, for example.
Then you are in the Obama camp, right now he wants to give breaks to 95% of the people in the USA, and tax the top 5% more...have them pay a higher percentage. Which is how it should be.... DD
Here I have to fully disagree with you. It doesn't make sense to me that the one with more money should have to pay a higher percentage. Anytime you have to defend a proposition that it's not fair that someone with ten times as much money only pays ten times as much money in tax, you lose in my mind.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Also, given that the line for being in the top 5% of taxpayers in the 2007 tax year was150K it's not as if all those people are super wealthy.
I would love a consumption tax, or a flat tax...but that is not going to happen. Here is the issue. To a person with $10,000,000 ......$10,000 is not that much money. To a person with 100,000.....$10,000 is a lot more money and $10,000 is a lot more to a person with less than 100k, which is a good majority of the country. I have no problem with people that make more paying more.....personally a flat tax would be great...but I don't see that happening. That is another issue I support. 1. A flat or Consumption tax DD
You do know that most people in the top 5% don't make millions of dollars a year right? 10K is 10K regardless of who it is. I don't care if a flat tax is possible or not right now. I do care that Obama wants to increase the tax burden on those who already pay 60% of all taxes in this country.
I am well aware of the top percentage, I have personally been there for more than 10 years. I don't mind paying a bit more at all.....not one bit..... To me this country has allowed me to acheive and if I can help pull more people up to be acheivers the country benefits.... The corporations and the rich should bare their responsibilities...which is why I lean towards a consumption tax..... DD
Your analogy is bogus though. At an equal percentage tax (not what I'm advocating) those two people wouldn't both get taxes 10k. Let's just say flat 10% for easy numbers here. The first person is taxed $1 million while the second is taxed $10k. The rich DO pay more in taxes. But why should they give 50% of their income ($5 million in your example) so that someone else can give 13% of theirs? And because those people often own businesses that employ the second person, he'll likely pay for it anyway.
