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Thoughts on Ryan Mallet as new QB

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by maybewatt, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Ottomaton

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    Has "Latino Post" ever broken a sports story? Some of their other trade rumors appear pretty silly, specifically the NBA ones.

    Reading the story, they are claiming that Brandt is claiming that a trade is being discussed, but the actual twitter quote they are extrapolating it from is actually presented by Brandt as pure speculation - "I could see".

    Same is true of the other story cited, the one from Fan Sided, which is essentially a blog post making note of the Gil Brandt speculation tweet.

    The real reason this immediately seems off to me is that the Pats have spent the last two weeks in big playoff games. What GM in the world is discussing trades while his team is still playing in the playoffs? Also, every other source indicates that the Texans haven't even started doing all the prep work for who to pick but the article claims that they've already decided to draft Clowney?

    It doesn't smell right at all.
     
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  2. J.R.

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    Never said it was a valid source(I agree, it's not) but that's where that came from.
     
  3. Cannonball

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    So, this "Bill O'Brien likes big QBs" thing. Is there a coach who doesn't? That's like saying O'Brien likes QBs with strong arms. Or QBs who are accurate, or are able to read defenses well. Or RBs and WRs that are fast and have good hands.

    Are there any coaches that prefer small QBs? Pete Carroll and Sean Payton have some on their teams, but if you took Wilson and Brees off their respective teams and gave their coaches some generic QBs to choose from as their replacements, do you think they'd prefer a taller QB over a shorter one?

    Point is that yes, being taller is a desirable trait for a QB, but people read too much into that. It's far from the only thing that matters. I'm sure that all other things being equal, O'Brien would prefer a taller QB. But all other things aren't equal and it's ridiculous to think that O'Brien would put such a premium on height that he wouldn't even consider someone shorter than 6'4".
     
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    I understand the reports are just talk but the people who said it would cost a high pick was right. I don't like that but, oh well... I hope it's a 3rd round pick and not a 2nd IF it happens.
     
  7. Ashes

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    I think it'd be a huge mistake to trade for a back-up again.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    It depends on what O'Brien thinks about Mallett. If he sees a lot in him, then it would allow us to use damn near the entire draft building a beast of a defense. We could end up with Clowney, Shayne Skov, maybe even a legit NT. If Mallett can be the guy for us, it'll be amazing. However, the only person that knows is O'Brien and I'm confident he wouldn't pull that trigger unless he was all but certain Mallett is his guy.
     
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    Lots of good, if not great QBs, started their careers as backups.

    Carries just as much risk as drafting an unknown.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    Who's the last backup who was traded and ended up great? Favre? And that was what, 23 years ago? The only other decent ones I can think of in recent memory are Matt Schaub and Matt Hasselbeck.

    Normally if a backup becomes great, it's with the team that drafted them. They were drafted to be the eventually starters but held a clipboard behind a vet for a few years while being developed behind the scenes. They'll even run a good starter out of town to make room for him when it's time for him to start (Young/Montana, Rodgers/Favre, Rivers/Brees).
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    If we got from ANY QB in this draft what we got from Schaub in his prime, we'd be grateful. I don't think Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles will ever be that good, if we built up a beast of a defense and Mallett was close to as good as Schaub was around 2009, we'd be a championship team.
     
  13. Remii

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    That's kind of what Mallet has been doing isn't it... Holding a clipboard.

    Do you think Dre would want Mallet who is ready to go, or do you think he wants to spend the last few years of his career while he's still playing at a high level waiting on a rookie to get up to speed...?
     
  14. Mr.Scarface

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    How do you know Mallet is "ready to go"? He hasn't played........at all.
     
  15. Mr.Scarface

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    Mallet career stats: 1-4, 17 yards...1 INT. Yeah, he is ready to take the Texans to the SuperBowl!
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    So that's what we're doing? Moving goalposts and adding qualifiers until we can reason ourselves out of wanting anything to do with Mallet?

    Who exactly are you arguing against here? Who suggested this?

    The lady doth protest too much.
     
  17. whag00

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    This is the way I see it as well. Realistically the texans are not going to get the next Brady or Manning in this draft. If Mallett can be coached up and you can get some playmakers around him later in the draft this franchise should still be in good shape going forward.

    If the Browns are willing to give up 2 first rounders for the 1 you do it. You get your qb and either clowney or Barr with the 4th pick and draft best tackle available with 2nd pick.
     
  18. whag00

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    He's more ready than any of the rookies in this draft. If he was entering this draft he would probably be a 1st round pick plus he has has a 3 yr internship under Brady and Belichick.
     
  19. Cannonball

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    Who's moving goalposts? We're talking about trading for a current backup. How many times has a backup been traded, become a starter, and become good/great? I honestly can't think of many in recent history, and Favre is the last one I remember who ended up great. You say that a lot of backups become good/great QBs, but those players normally don't get traded away. The teams that have them know what they have and don't let them go. And if they do let them go, they don't let them go cheaply.

    In general, it was a response to the accumulation of "Bill O'Brien likes big QB" posts when I've yet to see him say anything of the sort. The closest quote comes from a radio interview where he says his system has worked with mobile QBs, pocket QB, 6' QBs, 6'5" QBs.

    More specifically, it was in response to JR's post of Gil Brandt's tweet at the end of Page 8. lookitswillie posted the same quote a few posts before.
     
  20. Angkor Wat

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    Yall really think we can get 2 1st rounds for our 1st pick? How often has the #1 pick, nab two first rounders?
     

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