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Thoughts on Ryan Mallet as new QB

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by maybewatt, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. htown1984

    htown1984 Member

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    1 question , hsnt this guy been in the league for like 4- 5 years and noone has traded for him yet.. Wouldnt you think one of the QB teams in the last couple of years would
    have already traded for him if he was legit.. Just saying
     
  2. crose

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    Mallet just finished his 3rd year backing up Brady. How long did Rodgers back up Favre before getting his shot?

    To completely write him off as a career backup is just insane at this point. He is as much of an unknown entity as any QB coming out this year.
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    The fact that this is your 666th post means it's from the devil. May it be marked as unholy.


    No more backup QB's.
     
  4. crose

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    Here's 667 then....

    I don't care to trade for a QB either, but lets not act like he has been backing up some random scrub here.

    All I'm saying is that it is asinine to write somebody off before they have ever had a chance to show what they have.

    IIRC, he was a first round talent with off the field concerns, which is why he was drafted in the 3rd.
     
  5. htown1984

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    Yes, but QB's like Manziel and Teddy are being considered top 5 Pick, Wasnt Ryan Mallet a 3RD Round pick? Im not saying any of them will turn out to be Pro's, but they are graded very high..

    I know Mallet was projected to be a lte first rounder, but that didnt happen..
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    I'm repeating myself, but I guess it's necessary.

    For those of you who thought Matt Schaub was slow, Ryan Mallett is significantly slower.

    Schaub's 40 time - 5.04
    Mallett's 40 time - 5.37

    For comparison, the offensive line -

    Duane Brown's - 5.08
    Wade Smith - 5.14
    Chris Meyers - 5.11
    Brandon Brooks - 4.99
    Derek Newton - 5.01

    So basically, the entire offensive line can run noticeably faster than Ryan Mallett.

    But more importantly, there is a reason why the guy went from being a first round pick into a free fall into third round "risk/reward" pick once people started looking at his character.


    [rquoter]

    QB Prospect Ryan Mallett Doesn’t Like Money

    I don’t know if Arkansas quarterback prospect, Ryan Mallett has a substance abuse problem, but I do know he’s not the brightest bulb in the basket.

    Mallett’s stock has been rising since he has shown off his big arm and denied rumors and reports that he had been using drugs during his time with the Razorbacks.

    The fact that he was in Charlotte, North Carolina being interviewed by the Panthers who have the top pick in the draft, showed that Mallett had done a good job of resuscitating his chances of being drafted in the first round, even to the point of possibly being the number one pick.

    Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune and National Football Post reported that Mallett did something very stupid during his visit to the Carolina Panthers. One night, he went out to dinner with the team’s top brass during his visit to Charlotte, then afterward decided to go out on the town and get hammered.

    It was a bad mistake because I guess he got so badly intoxicated that he couldn’t make a morning meeting with the team that next morning.


    Jeff Person of the Charlotte Obsever tweeted the following: “League source says Ryan Mallett blew off his meeting with Panthers GM Marty Hurney during visit to Charlotte earlier this month.”

    Now his agent, J.R. Carroll sees all of the money slipping through their hands, so he’s trying to stop it immediately. Carroll got word to ESPN mouthpiece Adam Schefter and denied the report that Mallett was out that night.

    “I’m pretty sure Ryan was really, really sick,” Carroll said. “He told me he was sick the night before. And I know Ryan wasn’t out late night. I know that for sure. He’s not an idiot.”

    I hope they can somehow prove the story wrong, but why would you go out and get drunk while knowing you have the most important interview of your life the next morning. Millions of dollars are on the line and all you have to do is show up and be a nice guy, answer the questions then go home and open a few bank accounts.

    Unfortunately, you know what NFL player personnel people are saying. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

    [/rquoter]

    source

    Finally, this is where we get into the issue that I think led to Gary Kubiak's ultimate demise. Just because someone is unknown to you doesn't mean he's unknown to everybody. When the entire town was clambering for Case Keenum to "see what he can do", it's pretty clear that Kubiak had a pretty good idea from seeing him in practice every day, which is why he went back to Schaub at every opportunity. But the fans hadn't seen Case, they viewed him as an unknown quantity to be tested. Clearly, if Bill Belichick is willing to deal Mallett, he's seen enough to know something you don't. If Belicheck believes Mallett is a starting caliber NFL QB, he's not going to deal him. Belicheck sees him every day. He is unknown to you, but accept that Bill Belicheck probably has a pretty good idea who he is.

    I'd rather stay with Case.
     
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  7. pariah

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    If we came out of this draft with Clowney and Mallet, I would be ecstatic.

    I wouldn't even get cute with trading back unless we netted a pick and were guaranteed to get clowney. I would be fearful of another Johnson situation; as in, a trade back two picks and another guy gets the good Johnson, and we get. Travis Johnson. #rawdeal

    To me, Clowney and Mallet would be a great start for a fine haul from this draft.
     
  8. htown1984

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    So you would be Fine with Mallet, while Jaguars get Teddy, and more and likely the Titans will trade down to get Manziel or Bortles.. And if this guys turn out to be Franchise QB, we will be doom for a while for not taking the best QB Avaialble when we drafted..

    Can also be true that Mallet turns out to be great, but if he doesnt you would have given a couple of draft picks to the Patriots that would have helped this yr or next yr.
     
  9. Remii

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    Good points you make sir... And IF the Texans drafted a QB in the 1st round _ McNair has said they would bring in a veteran to start anyway so why not someone who is familiar with what O'Brien wants to do. And I seriously doubt the Texans would have to trade no where near as much for Mallet as they did for Schaub.
     
  10. htown1984

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    I dont think the Patriots will trade him for anything less than a 2nd Rounder.. If not he would have been gone already... Hes about to start his 4th yr for them, and noone has traded for him (Maybe they have tried and the patriots dont want to get rid of him..
     
  11. Cannonball

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    There's a difference. Rodgers was drafted to be Favre's successor. And Favre held that up a bit by not retiring. Mallett was drafted to be Brady's backup. And that's it. I don't know if he was ever looked at as Brady's eventual replacement.

    Mallett is to Brady as Yates is (or was) to Schaub.
     
  12. Fyreball

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    Am I missing something? When did McNair say this??
     
  13. Remii

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    Ryan Mallet has 4 passing attempts and 1 completion since he's been in the NFL and he might be coming up on the last year of his contract. I don't believe they could get a 2nd round pick for him and I seriously doubt the Texans would give that up unless it was a future pick depending on his performance. And I can't recall too many backup QBs that teams tried to trade for that haven't seen the field. But I would rather them trade for Bryan Hoyer and his busted knee over Mallet. But I can understand why some think the Texans should do it.
     
  14. crose

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    Agreed.

    They made a draft day investment in 2011, picking a high upside character risk to study under Brady, expecting his value to appreciate so they could flip him for higher than what they originally invested.

    Who knows how high they value him, but I would imagine it isn't too far off of what we gave up for Schaub.
     
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    Is it more about the rookie not being able to start, or the offensive line not being able to protect their $25 million investment... So why not throw a nobody out there to take a beating until the line gets better. Some people believe that starting Carr his rookie year may have ruined him and Bob might be one of those people.
     
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    Sure, I would take either one . . . as a backup.
     
  19. Pete the Cheat

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    so B'OB would have only been involved with Mallett through his rookie year? have we pryed any insiders off of the Pats staff yet that could give a progress report on his development?

    character issues don't really bother me from a production stand-point (see Roethlesberger, Ben)
     
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