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Thoughts on Dwight Howard this season?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by OldSchool34, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    Landry, Brooks and Granger's development are independent of Dwight Howard's. So just because they have improved visibly doesn't mean DH has to improve at that rate as well. Howard's pts are down but his FG is a career high at 60.1% at one point (now its like 59% or something close). That right there is an improvement which invalidates you and old school's whole argument.

    Kobe Bryant is already a 10+ year vet, and yet he improved during this summer more than he has the prior years before due to his summer workout with the Dream. By your logic, how can you explain that? Shouldn't he have plateaued during his sixth year in the league and couldn't improve anymore?

    Or is it possible that because he started playing young, even though he's already a 10+ year vet he's still only 30 years old, in his prime and can still learn a thing or two? On the other hand Jordan or any of his contemporaries would already been 35+ by now and ready for retirement.

    The fact is, these "X years in the league already" only apply to the full college players, because those guys already came in relatively developed. In 6 years, those guys would already by 30 years old and thus would be in their prime or on the decline already. That's not the case for the new age players at all.

    Logically speaking, the whole notion is preposterous. Basketball is a complex game and would take many lifetimes to master. Even if you have already been playing it for 6 years, considering you're not even 26 years old and still have your whole life ahead of you don't you think you will learn something else before your body starts breaking down and you have to retire? :rolleyes:
     
  2. roslolian

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    He's already the league leader in rebounds AND blocks. What more do you want? SMH :rolleyes:
     
  3. leebigez

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    Hey bizzle, u have anymore names you can come up with and use in your same lame arguments?
     
  4. v3.0

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    It'd be kinda funny if he was ArtisGilmore too.
     
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    HA! He's back? This is my first time clicking on this thread. Which poster is he this time? I should have known something was up when I got a random Dwight obsession IM from him last night with one of his usual "Yao > Dwight" messages -- as if I'm going to respond to his crap.
     
  6. SuperStar

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    Dwight is already a dominant player for the past couple of years so it's hard for him to show as much improvement as an Aaron Brooks who still has a lot to improve. When your ceiling is already extremely high, your increase is not as fast =)
     
  7. OldSchool34

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    How is that an improvement? It was 59% 2 seasons ago as well. SMH. Sorry, but there is nothing that Howard has improved in. You can talk about how others have, but you have to realize Dwight is more than likely a different person and a different player than him. There's nothing that backs anything up other than your opinion at this point. I've at least shown stats of how he's decreased at basically everything.
     
  8. durvasa

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    He's still doing that? Wow.

    OldSchool34 = BizzleRocket = WeMissDekeMan = [countless other names] = Point Forward Guy. I figured it was him back in the "Carmelo has surpassed Dirk" thread. He has, let's say, a unique way of arguing.
     
  9. SuperStar

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    Does he constantly get banned? or does he know members just tired of arguing with him so he keeps changing nicks?
     
  10. YaoMac09

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    Howard is just a freak athlete.

    He overpowers people in the post, he scores on put backs, he runs the floor, he jumps over people.

    He pulls down boards and swats shots because of his length and athleticism.

    And when he is matched up against players who can handle his strength like Yao and Perkins, his game goes down the ****ter.

    He is lucky that 80% of centers guarding him are easily overpowered by him.
     
  11. durvasa

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    I missed the Orlando-Celtics game yesterday.

    How did Dwight Howard do against Perkins?
     
  12. OldSchool34

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    Howard did well when Perkins was in foul trouble, but Howard did play well last night for the most part. It doesn't matter, Yao is a better Dwight defender than Perkins is. It's too bad Dwight is too insecure to give Yao credit.
     
  13. tmacROX1

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    hes not gettin enough touches this season, vc is getting way to many, nelson is talkin to many, their bench shoots every heartbeat, howards numbers r down :(
     
  14. durvasa

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    Not sure what Yao has to do with anything, but thanks.
     
  15. OldSchool34

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    Was pointing out how he was a better "Dwight defender" than Perkins is. Too bad according to Howard he thinks Perkins defends him better. I'm sure that has more to do with Howard's insecurity with Yao rather than his praise with Perkins .
     
  16. leebigez

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    Perkins is a pretty good defender, i would say elite if you think about it on the post especially. Garnett missed alot of games last year and they still finished tops in the nba. Is that by accident? I think not. Perkins has given Yao trouble before also on the post. He's 6'10 about 280 and strong as a ox with long arms.
     
  17. OldSchool34

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    I'm not saying he's an overrated defender or a bad post defender. He's an elite post defender, but I just don't think he defends Dwight Howard better than Yao does.
     
  18. leebigez

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    Why would any player talk about yao when his own teammates don't even do it? Out of sight out of mind
     
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    He has no prayer or making a basket outside of 6 feet. Teams are more than willing to foul him with his horrid free throw shooting. Since I doubt he'll ever develop a jump shot (he has this extremely awkward hitch at the top of his shot). His ridicoulos shoulders might be TOO be and strong. He's going to have to develop some more post move or put on weight so he can dominate more like Shaquille. His muscles don't really help him all that much offensively, if at all.
     
  20. {icebox425}

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    Dwight was pretty average last night until the 4th qtr, when he made a lot of nice/lucky little running hooks and got some crucial rebounds. He's a great blocking presence and rebounder, but I'd rather have Yao any day...Yao is much more dependable offensively in the clutch (provided he's not injured every second game).

    On a side note, did anyone see any of the completely illegal moving screens KG was setting last night? He was basically just running along with the defender pushing them out the way. He wasn't stationary for a second...I hate it how stars like KG can get away with this obvious **** and LeBron can get away with his awful travels (and yes I know what a travel is). It seems strange to me how EVERY time a player pump-fakes but moves their pivot foot before the ball hits the ground they call them, yet when LeBron or Dwight or whatever take a stupidly obvious 3rd step to get to the rim they don't call it ever?
     

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