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Thoughts on Dwight Howard this season?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by OldSchool34, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. Blake

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    He makes a couple of jumpers in the video. But according to this:

    http://www.82games.com/0910/09ORL12.HTM

    his jumpers this year make at the pitiful rate of 17.9%. So the made jumpers in the video are clearly a fluke.

    Some of the drives were straight drives to the rim, that's something he can go to on the post but he can be cut off and then he needs a countermove that he doesn't have.

    The hook shots look good in this video, but they were shattering the backboard against Kendrick Perkins in the playoffs last year. I don't think he has much consistency on that move. If he could make that move more consistent he wouldn't be taking just 9 shots a game.
     
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    numbers look the same to me.

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  4. OldSchool34

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    I hope some of you realize by post defender, I mean 1 on 1 individual defense. He's quite poor there, If he wasn't. There shouldn't be a reason why Nazr Mohammed outscore him on Saturday.
     
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    Howard isn't a poor one on one defender either.
     
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    Either way Howard is a solid post scorer. Is he Hakeem? No. Is he Shaq? No. But then again who is? Howard is a basic post scorer that gets to the FT line and doubled as much as any player in the NBA. He needs to work on his game but he hasn't plateaued by any means. He has moments on offense time to time and he has his duds, too. However, he does have the capability to improve. It is not like he looks like Mutumbo out there.
     
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    I agree, DH12 has 3 ppg lower this year while the rest of his stats stay the same if not better and you re calling him regressing. lmao. Not to mention he got less touches.
     
  8. OldSchool34

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    That's a lie. Howard doesn't get doubled that much and when he does it typically leads to turnovers. Howard is the most stoppable star in the league and it's not even close. I'm more afraid of a guy like Kevin Garnett lighting my team up than I am of Dwight Howard.

    Yes, fouling more, getting less blocks, turning the ball over more isn't regressing. :rolleyes:
     
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    Name a post scorer that gets doubled more than Howard in the NBA right now.
     
  10. OldSchool34

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    Tim Duncan, Dirk, Bosh, etc. regardless even if he does get doubled it's not even necessary since most teams, typically the elite teams are capable of stopping him because they have a big enough body to do so.
     
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    You obviously don't watch a lot of Orlando games.
     
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    No question he gets doubled all the time...you have to...he's too damned strong and athletic to cover one on one. Buy you have to admit that, despite whatever performance your youtube clip displayed, Dwight's offensive progress is extremely disappointing. I'm not saying he's Deke or anything. He still has time to improve, but you would think by this point he would have put in the hard work required in the offseason to develop low post moves and especially to develop a consistent jumpshot.
     
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    Yes, because one game determines if he is a good or bad post defender.
     
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    Howard's progress offensively has been disappointing. But at the same time Orlando isn't very good at getting him the ball. His assisted FGs are extremely low for a guy with his talent. This year, he is assisted less than Yao, Duncan, Shaq, Gasol, Bynum, Bosh, Amare, Lebron, and even Kobe. The prior year wasn't all that much different. Some of this has to do with the fact teams just foul Howard when he does get the ball in position to dunk. However, even a guy like Shaq, prime Shaq at that, was assisted on nearly 70% of his FGs. You'd think Orlando could assist Howard in the high 50s or low 60s and not the 47% he is at now.
     
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    Also, we should be happy Howard can't do everything he does right now AND be a great post player with a decent jump shot. He'd be a Yao Ming with super athleticism, and no one would be able to stop him.
     
  16. OldSchool34

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    You didn't watch the Celtics-Magic Playoff series last season either? Both Big Baby and Perkins were raining easy layups over Howard. Really, tell me one person that Dwight has ever shut down. He sure as hell doesn't shut down Yao.

    All the time? Dude, did you watch what the Celtics do to this guy? They just play Perkins straight up and he just gets shut down. Howard is the most stoppable star in the league and it's not even close. You can't give me another star that's more stoppable than him. Seriously.

    Actually I do, because I am constantly rooting against that pathetic 3 point chucking team with their no post move Center. It's obvious that you are a Magic fan though, why else would you be posting for the first time here? :rolleyes:
     
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    Really, there is nothing that backs up Dwight being a good post defender. This is why he's the most overrated player in basketball.
     
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    If we're using points allowed to the opposing center to rate his post defense, its worth pointing out that centers score less against Howard than they do against Perkins.
     
  19. OldSchool34

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    By .4 really? :rolleyes: This is why I don't listen to a bunch of nerds that have nothing better to do in their free time than look at stats and make stats up. This is why I think John Hollinger has no credibility. I use the eye-ball test to determine these things, because you know. I actually watch games. Talk about stats all you want, I see things with my own eyes and their is a reason why people agree with me, or at least some people.
     
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    And what are you doing with your free time? Watching the pathetic 3 point shooting magic and their no post move center? Or perhaps creating this thread?
     

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