Dont get me Wrong , I think Jason Williams is an excellent player , But even the Kings fans know Jason Williams doesn't play solid defense , He Has improved a lot from his last two seasons where he would jack up 30 footers and throw impossible passes . He is still a great passer who creates a lot for his team mates , He still can be a little careless with his behind the back flashiness , Awww what the hell Im just mad because Williams is ahead of Stevie . ------------------ "Its a good thing they don't make posters of European players" -Walt Williams after getting "posterized" by Zan Tabak .
Olajuwon is injured, Cato and Collier are recovering from injuries, and Houston is out-rebounded and out-sized in the paint. I still contend Montross would be a good addition to this Houston team. Allan Houston IS a better SG than Ray Allen. What has Allen done in the playoffs? Nothing. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
Offensive dynamos like Barry and Divac notwithstanding, Williams, not un-like Francis and Cynthia Cooper receive more attention from opposing defense, often times justified, for the very reason because they receive so much media attention. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
What would Montross add? Rebounding? NO. Scoring? NO. Plays good D and runs the floor? NO. Big white stiff that has almost no athletic ability? YES! Bring back the Pig before Montross! ------------------
Jwill had a good game yesterday, but the Kings lost so it's all for none. I'm sorry but he is overrated. I have watched alot of Kings game and the guy is so unclutch in crunch time that it's scary. No wonder they play bobby jackson so much. In the kings loss against the pacers in overtime at Arco, Jason musta missed 4 shots in overtime that were ill advised and, I'm sure, not what Rick Adelman wanted. Crash I agree with ya'. Jason makes easy passes look fancy and makes easy layups look dificult. He doesnt understand the concept of setting your feet on a jump shot, and still plays out of control alot. I'll give him this though. He has better than average quickness, is a good passer, and can get his shot off whenever he wants with that quick release. Kingslug, one game doesnt tell the whole story of a players defensive mentality. Jwill would rather let his man go by him and try to steal the ball from behind than work hard,keep his feet moving, and keep his opponent in front of him. Steve Nash is definitely better than Jason right now, but he's still only the 2nd best Steve in Texas ------------------ [This message has been edited by tacoma park legend (edited January 13, 2001).]
First of all, you lost credibility when you mentioned "Kenny Smith" and defense in the same sentence. I've seen Jason Williams and Nash play...and there is no way Nash is a better player than Jason. (Nash's performance this year can be attributed to defenses more concerned with Finley and Nowitzki.) Jason Williams is a great ballhandler and has a sweet release on his jumpshot. The only thing missing from his game is experience (and maturity). In a few years, he'll be a better PG than Kidd. (Which is not saying much because I don't think Kidd is that good.) ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com) [This message has been edited by University Blue (edited January 13, 2001).]
Jason Williams...Best PG in the league in 2 years??? Are you kidding? He obviously has what it takes to be a good PG, but I don't see him ever being a top PG in the league. There is a lot of competition...right now, there's GP and Kidd. Francis, Baron Davis, and Andre Miller for the future. And one more thing...how can you say that Kidd "isn't that good"? I think he is the best Point in the league, but that may be b/c I don't like Payton much. But Kidd can do it all...he's not spectacular, but he plays great D, rebounds very well for a guard, and everyone knows about his passing. He's in a category with Duncan...not very fancy, but they get it done. I think Francis will eventually be far and away the best 1 in the league. ------------------ "Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all time thing. You don't win once in a while, you don't do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time. Winning is habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." - Vince Lombardi
*****applause****** Great somebody who has actually seen Jason play a lot! Hey! Leave "the jet" alone! ------------------
Oh, so you can throw out the regular season when talking about if one player is better than another? Thanks, didn't know that. Allen is a better defender, better leader, as good a shooter, as or more athletic, a better passer, etc. He has Houston beaten. You can't say Houston is better just because he has a better team around him which therefore allows him to go further in the playoffs. ------------------ President of the Jason Collier and Mo Taylor fan club! Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
So are you implying that J-Nill is all star material? I am sure that is why he was on the bench during crunch time last night. The Kings should go ahead and make Bobby Jackson the starting PG if he is going to get the crucial minutes. Steve Francis, had a bad shooting night last night and still schooled Jason Williams. ------------------
Good game guys, I really did think you would win this one and I figured that thought was coming to light towards the end.. I don't mean to get into anything here but I do want to say something. How can JWill be over-rated when every NBA sports talker, news paper and Internet site basicl says he sucks??? You guys need to get over the title that the media placed on him 2 years ago. crash5179, Do you have a problem with whites? you have two posts on this thread alone that has basicly said you are an asanine fool. No since in getting into a b****ing match with me over this, its my thoughts and you will not change them. Once again, good game and I love your site.. the best NBA site on the net that I have seen.. catch you all next time we meet. ------------------
I guess since I am white the answer to that would be no. I only guess you are refering to my quote that Montross is a big white stiff. I did not say he was a stiff because he is white. But he is white and he is a stiff. Dirk Nowitzki (sp) is white and one of the better players in the league. There you feel better. Also I guess you don't like me saying that J-Will gets more attention because he is white. This is something that I truley beleive. Sorry if it offends you. John Stockton is one of my least favorite players of all time (mainly because he plays in Utah) but he is white and I acknowledge his greatness as a point guard. I also beleive that Steve Nash has had an all-star year, another white PG. I mentioned in my post that I did not intend for it to be a racial comment. But I do believe because of the low number of american whites in the NBA that the media sometimes looks for the next Larry Bird or the next Jerry West. And lets face it, after a few highlight real passes who did the media imediatly start comparing Jason Williams to? Pete Maravich. Not Magic Johnson the most recent king of the no look pass. Once again I did not mean to imply Jason Williams was no good just because he is white nor did I mean to imply that about Eric Montross (he sucks because he has green eyes!...just kidding). ------------------ [This message has been edited by crash5179 (edited January 14, 2001).]
Kitty Pride: We meet, again. Whether NY is a better team than Milwaukee is in-consequential in this debate. Houston is a better SG than Allen because he performs better in the post-season...where teams raise the intensity on defense. Allen might do well during the regular season, fine. But what has he done in the playoffs? Nothing...nothing but miss game-winning shots. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
Jackson playing the fourth quarter may or may not be a mistake on Adelman's part. [Scenario 1]: Jackson is new to the team, Adelman may want him to have experience with the first unit in the crucial situations. [Scenario 2]: Jason Williams is relatively young and the only way for his game to mature is by playing (and maybe making mistakes) in crucial situations. <hr width="50%"> Francis did not "school" Jason Williams. Francis had a great individual performance against the Sacramento Kings. The Francis-Jason Williams match-up is different, for example, from the Francis-Brandon match-up in that Jason Williams is not trying to out-play Francis. Brandon, on the other hand, has intimated he had something to prove against Francis. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
How can I argue with that type of logic...your right Jason Williams is better than Steve Francis. ------------------
