This years rockets personnel + JVG > than this years personnel + Rick Adelman

How fast people forgot how misrebale our team looked when we didn't make our open three's.
That only 4 players scored in a playoff game.
You can't say JVG would hvae won with this team because if he was here , Bonzi wouldn't be here , and Francis probably either.
With Scola taking most of the MLE I fail to see how we would have sgined a 3rd option on offense and a player like Francis.
We didn;t have precise offensive executon , it was dump it to Yao let him kick out to a shooter , or T-Mac pick n roll draw the double team , or T-Mac is at the wing.
Thats what we had.

 

Bottomline: Van Gundy leaving has nothing to do with coaching ability or wins and losses. He and Adelman are both good coaches with similar track records as far as records go.

Van Gundy had to leave because he and Les Alexander couldn't stand each other any more.

Rick Adelman is better than Van Gundy for this team because it's generally better when your coach and your owner don't have a strong dislike for each other.

 

i agree to a certain point. I just have a hard time putting too much value in an owners/coaches relationship and its effects on the game after the ball is tipped off.

 

Not directly... but it does affect things like personnell choices. It seems that Les Alexander opened up the bank for Adelman like he never did for Van Gundy. Van Gundy wanted extra Vet PGs and he never got them. Instead, Les refused to give a trade kicker to MJ and gave JVG Spanoulis and Lucas.

Adelman wanted extra PGs and he got a ton.

There is also a psychological affect on players knowing there is a fight in the front office. You are not quite devoted to the coaching staff and the team philosophy when you know these guys can be gone any time... you know

 

This year's SamFisher < last year's SamFisher.

And that is saying something...

 

I think JVG's offenses were pretty vanilla. But I place our playoff losses on both players and coach. I really agree with the concept that our backups last year were putrid and that helped contribute to our demise. Let's see...add James and Francis and Bonzi and Scola to last year and we beat Utah. We lost partly because we couldn't contain Boozer, but I think the main reason is cause Tmac had to carry too much of the load and he ran out of gas (not his fault, we didn't have enough talent to help). I don't pin the loss on Rafer - his shot was bad, but he helped us win 52(!) games with both Yao and Tmac having injury problems last year. If we have more talent, Rafer doesn't have to shoot as much and we (hopefully) win. And don't give me the "JVG was a jerk so he never played Bonzi" routine. Bonzi was fat and out-of-shape and any good coach would have sat his azz too. He was a baby last year and didn't want to follow the coach. I feel that his lack of playing time is ALL on Bonzi. JVG gave him a lot of chances and he failed.

I like the idea of having an open offense with more movement via Adelman. The questions about Yao in the high post are relevant, as I feel he killed other teams last year down low. We really have JVG to thank for molding Yao into a low post force. Remember when Yao came into the league? He had a few huge games in the beginning (one was against the Spurs ) and then teams figured him out somewhat. Then everyone was gunning for him; they wanted to dunk on the foreigner and make him regret coming to the US. How often do people do that now? Yao may have people dunk on him some, but his defense is a large part of our effective team defenses from the last few years. I give props to JVG.

The benefit of having these new players who can make their own shot would probably not have been as pronounced if JVG was still coach. It seems that Adelman's system will help increase our drives to the basket and that's a good thing. I hope all of these new players make Tmac and Yao's lives easier and we can hopefully rest them some until the playoffs. More rest equals less chance of injury, too.

 

you are making a judgement on adelmen. you don't have any idea what he's going to do, because... he is not jvg, meaning... he will change his plans according to the team's strength. you can't use rick's past year of coaching and compare it to jvg. jvg's plan has always been the same. rick's always changed.

 

How about we just wait until the regular season actually starts before proclaiming JVG a genius and Rick Adelman a waste of time?

 

Sounds good when we say we now hav adelman's offense + defensive discipline from JVG, but so far it looks to me that adelman's system is nothing but the houston rockets without Yao Ming. I'm not going to say more until the regular season starts, but if he's really planning to transform Yao to Miller like i would hav nothing more to say. JVG detroys rookies, some say, but what i see now is Adelman detroying a superstar and franchise of a legit NBA championship contender.

 

ok,u dont have to reply my post...I am only here to give a one star rating based on my expectation for this season and our new coach...

and still, with the same roster, I believe we could play better with the new coach..and remember , u dont have to reply

 

Yes it is.

Scola gets us past Utah.

James gets us past SA.

We easily win the championship.

 

True. You have to remember, jVG was given an extension during the season, and he didn't sign it. JVG was relieved from his duties for political reasons, not because he's not a good coach.

 

dude, even with bonzi, we shouldn't be overexagerating our strenghth saying we can beat the champion off the bat. don't get cocky. if we do, we're making the same mistake like last year before playoff. hence, espn saying we'll win in 5 or 6. tracy saying, "its all on me,"

 

I agree, I prefer a pick and roll game with lots of motion to the DIT offense of the early 90s.

On defense I hope Adelman keeps some of the same principals that JVG instilled.

What I do find weird is all the JVGOFs.....if he would have won either of those playoff series where his teams were up 2-0, he would probably still be here.

Much to my chagrin.

I mean I had to let go of my crush on V-Span........can't wait until the JVG threads are gone too.

DD

 

we've seen him coach several meaningless games. his interviews was not specific. he said, he'll make life easier for tracy, but not how. he said hes going to use yao's jumper. rick isn't stubborn, and will change his plan, if he's mistaking. we don't know HOW. we have no idea who he's going to play. he might let you play freely, that doesn't mean he doesn't have any plays. why should i pay for the houston chronicle, when its all about violence, and few section on rockets? i do have this forum, thats FREE.

he's a chameleon cause he does not force players to chagne for him. he changes his plays for the players.

 

I was talking about last year's playoffs.