This years rockets personnel + JVG > than this years personnel + Rick Adelman

without adelman= no bonzi, no tmac penetration and probably no scola playing big minutes.

with adelman= effective bonzi, tmac penetration and scola playing good minutes

net effect: lets wait and see

 

Bonzi is Rick Adelman kind of guy, and that's not a compliment.

Where is the cutting and dishing we saw in the first 3 games, that stretch was a fresh breath of air after so many years trenching it down JVG style. But that may be due to inferior opponents. Quciker teams always gave us trouble in the past, and add Memphis to that list.　And tonight our starting unit couldnt even keep up with Spurs 2nd or 3rd unit. Looks like our distance from Spurs has enlarged, ouch. I dont know what RA is playing right now. Everybody is looking for his first, free wheeling. I understand read defense, and make decision. But you just cant trust guys like Mike James, Luther Head, Francis, Synder to make the right decision. Yao is lost out there.

I do miss JVG, his little bald head, and the way he ocstrated the defense, and to some extent the defense. Remember last yea one game against spurs, we knife opened them pretty good.

 

ok, how do u know adelman can't do that? when he has not coached ONE SINGLE REG. SEASON GAME?

it baffles me when people can make predictions like that.

so i guess we should have expected championships the last 2 yrs since we always had a GREAT presesaon record under JVG.

JVG is a very good coach. he was just very stubborn and didn't adjust to his players at times or the opponents. so we move on.

 

Too early to call!

 

Sure, I'm not forgetting what JVG did with last year's team. It's been acknowledged that he did an amazing job considering the substantial injuries that afflicted last year's team. I was always a fan of his and believed he got a bad rap because of his demur media personality.

BUT...

Even you said it....Adelman may guide this more talented team to the same record that JVG did but he does carry the same ego nor stubbornness that JVG did, thus, increasing his team's chances of utilizing every single option to win games and advance.

 

i guess we bring in red aurbach, phil jackson... and they experiment a lil w/ yao's game or any parts of our team and we struggle => OH NO WE SUCK

 

Oops, I meant: he DOES NOT carry the same ego....etc.

 

we'll see if adelman will ADJUST or he is stubborn w/ his offense when we are done w/ a few reg. season games (say 3-4). if yao is still in the high post this much, then he's just as stubborn and we may not have hired the right coach.

if he DOES adjust, then he's going to take us far.

so give the man a chance.

when we had JVG, the other team can make 60% of 3pt shots and he still would pack the paint giving up wide open shots (like the raps last yr).

when teams can defend our pick and roll, he STILL runs it.

when yao struggles to guard boozer, he STILL wouldn't go w/ deke and hayes combo for a lil bit.

he STILL does not adjust.

 

I think Van Gundy could take this team (even if Francis and Wells didn't sign) all the way, but there's no reason Adelman cannot, either. I think there is a period of transition anytime you put a new system. However, if Adelman is to be believed, Yao will still be in the low post the majority of his time out there. The change I want to see most is how Yao is used on defense. I thought Van Gundy put him at risk to pick up too many dumb fouls with his rigid insistence on always running man-to-man defensive sets.

I'm sure Adelman will have a learning curve on how best to use his personnel, just as the players will have to pick up his system.

 

Torre had highest paid roster in the league, and underachieved, while JVG made 52 wins out of limited personnel throughout the season. I feel it's the rissue between Les and JVG that made them apart.
JVG is past now. There is going to be JVG applogists popping up whenever RA's teams suck balls. I will give RA until allstar break. It took that long for JVG to get it right the first year when Tmac joined us. So we have to be fair.

 

lol, and the regular season isn't even one game old yet.

gonna be a fun season.

 

u have GOT to be kidding me? bonzi will be a HUGE factor. he's a beast that dallas or spurs won't be able to handle. and he cuts, offensive rebounds...

we don't need francis. but we need all 3 scola/james/bonzi.

 

LMAO
this is Hilarious

IF JVG wasn;t JVG then maybe it would be true
but
If JVG had this squad

SF and Bonzi would be in his dog house and never see the light of day
for some assinine reason . .as in they would not RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAH!!

Scola would not play becuase he a foreign ROOKIE
Brooks would not play cause he a Rookie

MJ *may* get some time .. but I think it was JVG that ran him out on a rail

While I don't think the assistance coach is a Great coach to begin with
even if he was
his person problems with players would prevent him from getting the most out
of this collection of talent

Rocket River

 

ONE MORE THING

RUDY's Last Year: 2002-03 Houston Rockets 43 39
GUNDY's 1st Year: 2003-04 Houston Rockets 45 37

Rudy was out the last so many games and they were coached by Larry Smith


I bring this up . . .cause I think MYSELF INCLUDE
we thought Rudy would have done better
with some of the talent JVG had

It is such DEJA VU
cause everything the JVG BACKERS are saying
was said by us RUDY BACKERs in the years past

Rocket River

 

what a dumb thread.

this years personnel +jvg= freak show freaker than VSpan JVG show.


JVG is gone, get over with it, sucker.

 

This is going to be a hot topic for awhile I believe JVG vs RA. Some people wanted a higher and more entertaining offense while others wanted a more intense defense. Though I was not ready to see JVG be tossed because I thought he could do great things for us but something Rockets fans greatly is patience. People need to give Rick Adelman a chance, he is a new coach with tons of new players. He has never had talented players to coach like Tracy McGrady and a dominating inside post in Yao Ming so this is all new for him too. The Rockets also made significant offseason contributions to the roster so it is going to take some time to gel, if you believe the team will be better off in the greater future meaning the playoffs give it some time, if not give it some time as well because we haven't seen one regular season game. Though I am not sold on seeing Yao playing in the high post because one of the reasons why he had the media talking last year as a strong candidate for MVP was because of his dominant inside pressence. His passing can still be accurate from the low post IMO. I just think RA was experimenting to see exactly where Yao's real strengths are and if he is ready to expand his game to the outside some more.

 

Looks like the Adelman honeymoon has already ended for a lot of people. It's fair to say the criticism of Adelman is going to be pretty harsh this season. He's isn't a magician who will make all players (and their devoted fans) happy. There are going to be some bumps in the road this season and a slow start may be one of them.

It's too early to judge Adelman. He's a good coach and deserves more time. He is a radical departure from JVG and the entire season will be a work in progress.

 

I'm surprised at the responses in this thread, I had expected more on today's style of play, and frankly, I was absolutely horrified at the defence by the Rockets. The Spurs got wide open shots at will, and rotations were terrible. There was one Spur who made a shot with two people in front of him, and they did NOTHING. Not even a single finger to contest the shot. Several times, wide open threes from the perimeter left me wondering as well. Even Dikembe just stood there and watched whatever Spurs crap had on the floor hit a wide open jumper right outside the paint. When we finally contested a few shots, guess what? The Spurs missed!

 

Shall we consider the current Adelman detractors as one pump chumps?

 

Fire Adelman, he's never done anything in his career.