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This year's offense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by aelliott, Jan 25, 2021.

  1. aelliott

    aelliott Contributing Member

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    There was a comment in another thread regarding what people think they see vs what is really happening. Perception vs Reality. That made me curious as to what people do think they are seeing.

    So, here's a simple question:

    What's different in this year's offense vs last year's?

    I'm not asking "who's doing what". We've got a lot of new players so obviously there's different people doing things on the court. I'm not concerned with that. What I want to know is what is our offense doing on the court this year that is new or different?

    No wrong answers, I just want to know what your perception is. I just want your opinion, if I want the actuals, I can look them up. What do you see this year that we weren't doing last year.

    To be clear, I'm only concerned about offense right now.

    So tell me what you're seeing.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Scoring less at a slower pace with a worse defense presents a real change up for opposing coaches.
     
  3. HP3

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    Could someone tell me more about what the actuals are now that Harden left. Im being serious. Obviously we are playing better since Harden(the defense) left but I want to know how the offense is different.
     
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    I think it's the same offense, but seems like everyone is less timid and wanting to push the ball more.
     
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    Less PnR since Harden left.

    Pace is nowhere near as fast as last season.

    Silas 5 out encourages every player to be triple threats, so less catch and shoot, more show and go especially by role players.

    More cuts, which I like.
     
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    PJ Tucker attempts to make a play off the dribble a couple of times a game. It goes... poorly.
     
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    oladipo seems to have the 'green light' in the few games he's played, but his shot selection has been horrid
     
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  8. aelliott

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    To be clear, I'm looking for improvements. Things that we are working and we didn't do last year.

    Not concerned with things that aren't working.

    There's frequently comments about liking this years offense better. So what are the improvements?
     
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  9. D-rock

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    Here are your improvements.



    Stone > Morey
    Silas > D'Antoni
    Wall-Dipo-Wood > Harden-Russ-RoCo

    Amirite?
     
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    More ball movement, more cuts,more slashes towards the rim,it kinda seems like we are a drive first,score at the rim first team. We are like the new spurs in a sense,we try hard on defense and pass the ball alot. I still believe we gotta sprinkle a bit more pick n roll and post up cwood and boogie a bit more.
     
  11. pippendagimp

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    we have multiple players from all positions bringing the ball upcourt this season to initiate the offense less predictably, as opposed to just harden/WB/gordon
     
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  12. aelliott

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    As I said, I'm not concerned about who's doing anything. How has the way we score changed? We're obviously not getting nearly as many ISO's and we no longer have Harden's step back that can create an open shot any time he likes. So, we must be doing something different. What is it?
     
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    I will say that it appeared to me that we have had a lot more player movement than in previous seasons. Even comparing this year pre trade and post trade my eyes told me player movement was clearly up.

    I was wrong.
     
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    Ok, but how's that translating into us scoring? Is that getting us more open shots? Is that getting us different kind of shots? If it's an improvement then it has to help us score. How's it doing that?
     
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    Let me guess, your perception is the only reality?
     
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    I’m here for the Boogie attempts at coast-to-coast.
     
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    i wouldn't know where to find data/numbers on whether its something that's improved our offense or not. and we've had so many different active rosters every night i'm not even sure the eyetest would mean anything as well, particually the small sample size of games to-date. but conceptually i do like it when any one of our players can just go with the ball instead of having to stop and look for some designated ballhandler. in theory it should help us get into our offense quicker and present less predictable possessions for the opposing defenses to react to.
     
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    From what I've seen, everyone but Wood has been inconsistent with their shooting. As far as Wall and Cousins go I'm willing to give them time because of their situations. Gordon has been coming on of late.
    Throughout it all their defense has been getting better and better.
     
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  19. aelliott

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    I'm curious as to what people think.

    Im not asking for reality. Reality can easily be found as its tracked by the NBA.
     
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    More drive and kick..

    guys aren’t just catching and shooting but driving more and passing out to perimeter

    too bad we don’t have good 3 pt shooters
     
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