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This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Snow Villiers, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. zeeshan2

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  2. J.R.

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    Now that Case The Great has been benched, do the Texans have the worst starting QB? ;)

    Fitzpatrick benched
    Keenum benched
    Gabbert benched
    Kessler/McCown benched
    Romo benched

    When are the Texans gonna bench their awful QB? ;)
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Goff is now the worst starting QB until Flacco gets hurt
     
  4. Nimo

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    Since so many of you are tired of this team because of its subpar QB play and their few blow-out losses; i have a recommendation. Try going here:

    https://bolttalk.com/forums/chargers-fan-forum.18/

    You got your elite QB and a team that doesn't get blown out. You will be happier there. Have fun. You're welcome.


    Oh yeah, get used to missing the playoffs but don't get used to the name as the team will probably be moving soon.
    :)
     
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  5. J.R.

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    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spo...g-Texans-plays-needs-to-get-more-10614401.php

    How many Texans does it take to throw for 99 yards?

    Three, apparently.

    Brock "Game Manager" Osweiler unleashed his worst game of the season Sunday, which was difficult, considering what we were forced to endure in Denver, Minnesota and New England and the fact the Texans actually improved to 6-3 by barely surviving two-win Jacksonville.

    But the $72 million man definitely outdid himself, requiring 27 passes just to fall short of 100 yards and averaging a ridiculous 3.67 yards per throw.

    Thankfully, Osweiler wasn't alone on his 99-yard island and had help getting there.

    Eagle-eyed fans (and zoomed-in TV cameras) noticed that offensive coordinator George Godsey appeared to be the Texans' offensive coordinator again.

    In a better mood Monday - Bill O'Brien was chippy and defensive again Sunday, for some reason - the Texans' coach confirmed that his previously demoted OC had taken back the play card and directed the offensive attack from the sideline.

    "I'd say that (Sunday) George called the majority of the plays. … George is a very bright guy, and I think it's what's best for the team," O'Brien said at NRG Stadium.

    For the confused, here's a little clarification:

    Godsey called the offensive plays when the season began.

    The Texans started 2-0, then were humiliated by the Patriots.

    O'Brien scolded the media for overreacting to his team's being shut out by a third-string quarterback, then privately took over play-calling a few days later. He then got mad again when asked about the change.

    "It doesn't matter who calls the plays," a tense O'Brien said Sept. 30.

    Time passed. The Texans won more than they lost (but when they lost, they lost bad). Osweiler barely improved, if at all.

    The old switcheroo

    Then, at an unannounced recent moment, O'Brien relinquished his new additional duties and returned the offensive reins to Godsey. Sort of.

    "We're doing it together, if that makes sense," O'Brien said.

    Then Osweiler threw for 99 yards Sunday, and the Texans somehow still won.

    "What I found out is you can't just stay the same. If you think you're doing something that's taking you down the wrong path, then you have to fix that," O'Brien said. "That means this year, in 2016, George and I are working closely together to call the best plays we can during the game. That's how we're doing it."

    It's a lot of change for a fifth-year QB who's a first-time entrenched starter and has already clashed with his new coach about what should be called when.

    Remember O'Brien's sarcastic comment after Osweiler pulled off a last-minute miracle against Indianapolis?

    "We called plays that he likes," O'Brien said.

    It's now been Godsey to O'Brien to Godsey to O'Brien/Godsey in just a nine-game span for an offense that is tied for 29th out of 32 teams in average scoring (17.9 points) and is 30th in yards (308.8).

    That doesn't sound like the organizational consistency normally found in Super Bowl contenders - let alone an offense that possesses enough firepower to win a wild-card playoff game at home.

    It's undeniably clear O'Brien is searching for a way to get more out of Osweiler. I'm fine with the whatever-it-takes, kitchen-sink approach - if it works.

    But for all the private role-changing, the Texans are no closer to having an answer at QB than they were when the first stage of the $72 million experiment began. And after the Texans threw for just 131 yards at Denver in Week 7 and 99 at Jacksonville, the ongoing O'Brien-Godsey flip-flop is beginning to look like offensive desperation.

    The designated play caller can't improve Osweiler's erratic accuracy. The steady voice in Osweiler's head isn't being heard when he's playing this poorly.

    Nauseating numbers

    Thus far, O'Brien and Godsey have been unable to fix the worst weekly QB numbers during their three-year run in Houston. Osweiler is last in the NFL in yards per attempt (5.61), 31st in rating (74.1), and 29th in yards per game (202) and completion percentage (58.6).

    For the third consecutive season, the Texans have a winning record because of their defense. In 2016, O'Brien and his staff hold the seventh-best winning percentage in the league despite the team's consistently unacceptable quarterback play.

    The most discouraging part of Sunday's 99-yard letdown: The Texans had two weeks to get Osweiler ready, and that was the best they could muster against a 2-7 team.

    This isn't on the offensive line - which has been better than expected - and it's not because of a lack of weapons.

    This is either a direct result of the play-calling and the Texans' system, a combination that includes Osweiler's not clicking with his coaches, or the worst option of the three: The QB guaranteed $37 million simply can't cut it.

    A quarterback with a very familiar last name threw for 513 yards two weeks ago. If the guy the Texans could have drafted in 2014 easily outduels Osweiler in Mexico and O'Brien's team falls hard again on national TV, we could be a couple months away from waiting for another move - a permanent change at OC.

    Ninety-nine yards for $72 million is embarrassing.

    Even when you're 6-3.​
     
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    Superbowl win or not, I will always have a love-hate relationship with this team because of its ignorant fanbase. I equate it to being a Christian, and then hearing people at my church trying to tell me that the world is only 10,000 years old.

    Light travels 186,000 miles per second, and the current furthest system we can see is 13.3 billion light-years...
    which basically equates to...
    We're 9-3 and in first place, with one of the easiest remaining schedules, and you want to change QBs and fire the coach who has an overall winning record using 10 QBs...

    You morons...
     
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    I'm in the same boat. At least with this fanbase it all boils down to an embarrassing lack of football knowledge for the most part. That means that there is at least hope that one day they'll learn enough about the game to have intelligent takes on the matter. Bama fans (yeah, I've been one for most of my life) are usually embarrassing for reasons that can't be changed or improved upon.
     
  8. Svpernaut

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    I'm just ashamed so many people from Texas know nothing about the game of football. I mean this is supposed to be football country. It is sad to think how much of the game they miss focusing solely on where the football is.
     
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    Grading offensive lines entering Week 11
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-entering-week-11/
     
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    The Saints fans are in a similar boat... albeit they do have that one SB from 5 years ago to hang their hats on for the rest of their lives.
     
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    Brock Osweiler voted
     
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    LOL

    And people say Texans fans/media are soft on the team
     
  14. Nimo

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    And they were in the playoffs as recent as 2014. They might even make it this year if someone on the NFC East (or the Falcons) falter late in the season. The Bolts have much less of a chance to make it to the postseason.

    Either way, Texans fans can go become Chargers fans or Saints fans and be much happier smh
     
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    Have to say...its pretty sad when the start QB of the franchise has real talent at the Receiving spots, and yet has difficulty getting them the ball. This exclusively is a combination of Brock not trusting presnap reads...I think he does WAY too much at the line. Sometimes the first play called is the best play. They need to force him to snap the ball faster. That will force him to make reads sooner.
    The Texans really have a ton of issues. They really have to see what they have in Savage this season in games.
     
  17. Svpernaut

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    More like Texans fans are a special kind of stupid.

    Savage will not see the field this year unless there is an injury, it isn't going to happen.

    "Real Talent" at the receiving spots requires them to be on the field. We have three receivers worth a damn (Hopkins, Fuller and Strong), and two of them have been injured for significant time. It isn't hard to isolate Nuk when Fuller and Strong aren't on on the field (like the Jacksonville game).

    If you look at Brock's passing performance, you can easily, and directly correlate his success to having a healthy Will Fuller on the field. That is the exact reason they went with Fuller in the first round, to give their investment into Osweiler a shot at succeeding.
     
  18. Svpernaut

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    Just ignore the people saying we should have taken Carr in the draft. They are short sighted they probably think he was the #1 rated QB in the draft and worth #1 overall. No team in the league had Carr (or ANY QB) rated #1 - which is why the Texans couldn't trade the pick. The only position worth trading up for to #1 is QB (because of the cost in pick and salary compensation).

    What's your point? Peyton Manning went 13-23 for 104 total yards and an INT in Super Bowl 50, or 4.52 yards per passing attempt. He also had the worst season of any Super Bowl winning QB in history. DON'T CARE, GOT RING!
     
  19. Commodore

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    NFL throwing shade, jeez

     
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    same writers that probably had the vikings as superbowl champions after 5 games with bradford as the mvp savior. Now the line can't protect him and his fast release makes him look like dufus, when receivers haven't even made their break and the ball just land's in no man's land.

    Like I said many times, I wish savage could start just out of curiosity see if our receivers can create separation from press coverage with a new qb in there. Something tells me they can't. The only ones that can consistently are the TEs. who would have thought. Need to use them even more.
     

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