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This team needs a finisher

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by flame, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. t_mac1

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    that's based on points. tracy doesn't score as much as he used to. look at the +/- of tracy. the team is +12 in crunch times when he plays. that's still not very high b/c our team doesn't finish games well (as compared to +31 like lebron).

    but yao's +/- last yr in crunch time was a -4.

    we just gotta finish better. the entire team takes the blame.
     
  2. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    yes i really think kobe, pierce, ginobili, parker, and wade are untouchable. i dont think any combination of defenders (shane, hayes) and shooters (barry, head) will pry any of them away from their current teams. their GM's would laugh off bringing on tmac or ron for any of those players too.

    outside of trading yao, we cannot get any of those names.


    you said a team needs a dominant center and a "finisher", someone who can take over in the 4th. well what if all of those teams with "finishers" offered a combination or shooters and defenders for yao? we would laugh that off just like they would if a similar trade was offered for their franchise player.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This team would win with a PG .........as is....

    If Aaron Brooks would have been in against the Pacers they win.

    Rafer is a huge problem...especially without Tmac to bail him out.

    DD
     
  4. flame

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    Read the thread throughout, you would see I already named a few others. Seth also gave out other source you can check.
     
  5. smoothie

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    i was wondering why he didnt get more than 10 minutes. sure we had a 10 point lead in the 4th so the game plan seemed to have worked. when things started to turn, brooks needed to come in and rip through that zone.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    ABSOFRICKENLUTELY !!!!!!!

    DD
     
  7. flame

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    Hi DD, I'm not pointing to this Pacers game. In fact, win or lose a few games in regular season.. big deal :cool: . I am talking about the championship. PG is a problem in this team, but which team won the championship with only a super star PG?
     
  8. Angkor Wat

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    By finisher, what do you mean? Guys that can attack the rim and finish with a bucket or guys that finish off games by being clutch or whatever?
     
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    Magic Johnson?
     
  10. flame

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    Guys that can attack the rim and finish with a bucket in crunch time.
     
  11. flame

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    He is more than a PG and he is more than a finisher.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    we need a health tracy. he makes PLAYS down the stretch. sure he might not score every time, but more often that not, we'll get a good shot either from him or from another player.

    hopefully he'll get back to his normal self real soon.

    we have the pieces. it's just whether tracy is confident in his health to go out and do things he knows he can do. it's whether yao is confident in going out and wanting to dominate the opposition. it's whether ron artest can man up and dunk that rather than missing gimme layups.

    we have the pieces. but these guys just gotta man up.
     
  13. Seth

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    By a finisher you have to say a guy that more often than not he scores when given the ball on the clutch.

    If you look at the list at 82 games youll se that some finisher, like LBJ for example is a player that scores a lot of points mainly because he is given the ball while if you look at ginobili youll see that he actually raises his game a lot by hitting 57% of his shots, 44% of his 3´s and 93% of his FT during the last 5 mins of the games compared to his season stats at 46% shooting, 40% 3´s and 86% FT shooting, now THAT´S CLUTCH!
     
  14. nolimitnp

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    Fail!
     
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    I agree
     
  16. nolimitnp

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    I think you are misunderstanding what he means by "finisher". He means a guy to count on for clutch shots down the stretch, not put back dunks in the second quarter.
     
  17. Seth

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    I don´t know if you consider a healthy season for tracy last season, but to put it as an example T-Mac is actually worse in the cluctch than in other moments of the game in all but two categories. He shot worse 40% to 42%, he was better with the 3 ball 30% to 29% and he was worse at the line 66% to 68%, he raised his assists to 8,6 in the clutch against his usual 5,9 but that is a reflection that in the clutch the ball is always in his hands, also reflected for example in Ginobili who raises his assists from 4,5 to 10,5 in the clutch, actually most clutch performers (players that are given the ball in the clutch) raise their assists numbers in that period cause they have the ball more.

    Plus T-Mac is very prone to turn the ball over in the clutch (5 turnovers per 48 clutch minutes) compared to other (1.8).

    T-Mac is more overclutched than you think.
     
  18. flame

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    Not exactly same. A deadeye three point shooter could be a good game closer but not a good finisher. The finisher should be a go-to guy who usually creates shots and finish strong.
     
  19. BrownBeast99

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    If we could somehow get Joe Johnson on the Rockets.......................
     
  20. wallflower

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    Phil Jackson>Rick Adelman

    kobe/>McGrady

    poor defence and low step yao< shaq/duncan/garnett

    yao is the big man,not the qualified one.
     

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