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This team needs a finisher

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by flame, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. LoveRoxHateJazz

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    When T-Mac isn't playing, the Rockets can be one ugly team to watch. I recall that 06-07 30 point blow out season opener against the Mavs, and that double overtime game against the Nuggets as good games with T-Mac out.

    T-Mac is "the bus driver". :D

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  2. pewpew

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    landry is the only good finisher in this team
     
  3. flame

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    Right and wrong. 'A dominant big man + a deadly finisher' is a standard form in NBA. It dominants NBA history in a big time. You may cover one factor in another, if one is exceptionally strong (Jordan is more than a finisher and hard to reappear, right?).

    I have given examples for the winners. Now recall those losers: Old time Kings, Jazz, Mavericks and Phoenix. No matter how close they were, they failed because they didn't completed this formula. Sometimes, you may think the talent, the effort, the good team execution can make up it, but it is really hard.

    I dare to say, Jazz and Hornets have no chance to win the championship in this year for this reason.

    As Sun Tzu on the art of war

    In all fighting, the direct force may be used
    for joining battle, but unexpected force will be needed in order to secure victory.

    This has been translated in NBA as

    In NBA games, the dominant big man may be used
    for joining battle, but the deadly finisher will be needed in order to secure victory.

    :D
     
  4. RocketsHero

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    Stevieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Francis for the winnnnnn, Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) ;) ;) ;)
     
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    :confused: Please tell me you guys are kidding. Maybe ya'll ate a little too much turkey.

    This team definately needs a better finisher. Sure, TMac used to be that guy, but no longer fits the role. At least not until he is back at 100% and then we will see if anything changes. Yao, as is the case with most big men, can't create his own shot so that makes it difficult to be the closer. Ron had a chance to show off if he was that guy, but passed off to Yao for the last shot. I love Ron Ron, but he shouldn't be relied on as a finisher.
     
  6. Curly

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    If Yao could finish, we would have won the Pacers game.
     
  7. flame

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    Brandon Roy will be shine in the rockets, but I think he is untouchable for Portland.
     
  8. RocketsHero

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    You have mistaken two things: a finisher and a basketball god who can always finish games.

    Lebron James is a great finisher but he doesn't always finish games.
     
  9. Jeff Who

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    Oh yeah I feel your pain. Something like Lakers' Ariza would be great
     
  10. giddyup

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    Time to move McGrady into the Hondo Havlicek role if his ego would permit-- save him for the fourth quarter to be a difference-maker.
     
  11. flame

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    No, I think you have mistaken my point. A finisher is not a good addition. He is a go-to guy in the crunch time.
     
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    The problem with T-mac's finishing is that, well in the games I've watched, he drives when he posts up, so he doesn't have very much momentum to get up there. Also, he seems to, rather than leaping full out, which he is fully capable of doing, McGrady goes for the half-leap, sort of a hop towards the basket, those people who can dunk will know what I mean, the difference between trying to dunk it in and laying it up. The latter requires less effort and energy, which is why McGrady does that.

    Of course, I'm not disputing that he can finish those layups, but he seems to do that too often, and I remember the start of the last season, T-Mac wasn't even trying to dunk, he was attempting all kinds of circus shots. They looked great when they go in, but terrible for efficiency. But I hope this is only because of his knee, and when his knee fully heals, then we might see the dunking Mcgrady.
     
  13. ling ling

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    Francis going for the winner. 3, 2, 1... turnover off the foot. Game Over.
     
  14. smoothie

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    this didn't answer the question... who would you suggest the rockets target?

    i understand that the players you named are "finishers" but they are also untouchable. you say weaker teams have good finishers... who are they? and do you believe the rockets can acquire them?


    in two years (2010) i would be happy to see tmac's contract NOT extended. lets hit the market for a more durable SG. michael redd and rip hamilton are more achievable goals than wade, johnson, etc...
     
  15. Curly

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    I understand what you are saying, and think we are on the same page, however, around the rim, James will always finish the game. If I'm down by one and my guy has the ball inside five feet from the goal, my guy would be James, not Yao. For some reason, he still can't figure out that he should never ever be denied inside five feet. There is no escuse for a guy of his size to ever "lay up" that close to the rim. When the ball is in his hands that close, the only direction it should be going is down.
     
  16. flame

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    Do you really think they are all untouchable, if you are willing to give up anything? Many teams welcome big names, good defenders, good shooters than a finisher.
     
  17. Problem-Chyld

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    WE WANT STEVE!
     
  18. RocketsTerps

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    I think you mean a "closer".... I nominate Ben Gordan.
     
  19. Seth

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    T-Mac is a finisher only sometimes, wana look for finishers, go to 82 games and you have them there on a stat list.
    http://www.82games.com/CSORT11.HTM

    Up to this list the most clutch performers are LeBron, Kobe, Nowitzki, Ginobili and.... Ben Gordon. I would go for this one, i say that if you give up scola you can get him, Chicago is quite desperated for an offensive PF.

    oh, and the best Roocket is Yao, at 19, if you doubt the importance of a finisher look how SA performed against LAL with Manu injuried, they were up all games until the fourth and won only one of five, the only one they won was the one that Ginobili scored over 30.
     
  20. flame

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    Good finding, but you have to rate them in a balance between points and Fg%. More points means he is a more go-to type guy, and higher Fg percentage means more killer instincts. Personally I will only focus on shooting guards and small forwards.
     

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