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This should be JVG and Ewing's last year

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jediknight94595, Oct 27, 2004.

  1. zong

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    Trade Yao, then we do need teach Yao. We need teach somebody
    else.

    1) Trade Yao for one of those large inflatable beach balls.

    5) Fire Ewing and bring Big Country and the reanimated corpse of Yinka Dare into the fold to teach Yao.
     
  2. scotia

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    And bring back Mr. Mean !
     
  3. leroy

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    I think the real question to jediknight should be...how many shots did JVG and P-Ew miss last night?
     
  4. edc

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    "and" nothing. Just an observation. You are free to continue wearing the Van Gundy glasses, but I have seen nothing in the preseason that would lead me to believe that this club will manage 91 PPG.

    As you frequently are, you are mistaken. I posted on both the Chicago and Miami threads.
     
  5. jediknight94595

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    T-Mac said after the game that they were doing "too much thinking". In fact, he or Yao have said the same thing before. What the heck is T-Mac and Yao thinking about?? This aint a school!

    What it means is that JVG wants the Rox to outthink their opponents rather than outplay them! That's fine if all the players suck, but we have YAO AND T-MAC!!! Why the hell do we need to outthink our opponents when we can outplay them?? Playing good Van Gundy defense is draining our players of physical and mental energy. They are wasting their energy trying to defend, so thats why they look inconsistent on offense.

    I think JVG would be a fine coach for a very poor team that can't outplay anybody else or has lack of discipline. Such a team would need to outthink their opponent. But the Rox aren't that bad. We're a good team with lots of good intelligent players. It seems like some people think our players are dumb and still need re-education or mental help or something, and that we need this cult leader Van Grumpy's "system".

    We have YAO AND T-MAC on the SAME team!!! We oughta expect 100 points a game for this dyanmic duo!!!
     
  6. DavidS

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    "Van Gundy glasses?" On what? I want to WIN! And I'm willing to give JVG time. So, Boo hoo and your 91ppg. Try 91pts, 45%FG and a WIN! Yep. I'll take that.

    I'll say this again...try complaing about JVG after each win. See how far you get. YOU NEED A ROCKET LOSS!
     
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  7. RocketsPimp

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    Stick to what you know best, watching your 27 different versions of Star Wars videos, laser discs and DVD's while denouncing Lucas for making Greedo shoot first and leave the basketball to the experts that haven't even played a full week's worth of basketball games together.
     
  8. VesceySux

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    Yo, I agree!!! JVG needs to shut up and let us play!!! We don't need coaching on fundamentals!! We got skills!!!!!!!!!!

    Sincerely,
    Steve Francis
     
  9. thegary

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    No, they won't-a. What? You think you're some kind of Jedi, waving your hand around like that? I'm a Toydarian, mind tricks don't work on me. Only money. No money, no parts, no deal!
     
  10. ima_drummer2k

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    I find your lack of faith disturbing.
     
  11. Old Man Rock

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    Everyone agrees that the Rockets got the better of the deal in the Francis McGrady trade. We got rid of a cancer in Francis and got one of the top five players in the league. Yet Orlando is out playing the Rockets big time. Let me be clear, I am not complaining about how ugly the offense is. And how JVG is making star players like Mcgrady look terrible. If we win all is forgiven. But we are losing and looking ugly.

    Sure it's only preseason but it's the end of preseason when most teams are stepping it up because they all know you have to build winning attitudes now, especially against a division rival. Orlando knows that and soundly stepped it up last night and kicked there biggest rival in there division Shaq's Miami heat. San Antonio stepped it up as well. And Rudy and his Lakers stepped it up beating Phoenix and Seatle in back to back road games this week.

    Of course you can say that the Rockets are a new team and need time to gel. But Orlando is a new team as well and Rudy completely revamped the Lakers minus the most dominating player in the game and they are kicking butt. So what's JVG's excuse now he has his hand picked team minus MO T. He got rid of the players he hated and added a buch of cronies to help coach. This team is clearly head and shoulders better than any Rocket's team we have ever had since Olajuwons prime. If we don't make it past the first round heads should roll.

    Firing Rudy T and hiring JVG will go down as the absolute biggest Rocket mistake of all time.
     
  12. magyuan

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    I've been wonder why so many JVG basher :confused:
     
  13. Texas Stoke

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    And in your pathetic way you hope the Houston Rockets have the type of season to prove you right.
     
  14. ico4498

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    this is the JVG system. the focus next practice will be on how many point we allowed, not on how many we failed to score. that is the JVG system. this is the game JVG type players play.
     
  15. edc

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    The "perfect" system for one of the most dynamic scorers in the league. :rolleyes:
     
  16. DavidS

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    Old Man Rock,

    It's not that simple. Rudy and Francis were absolutely the worst two players that could have been matched together. Rudy with his *wild and woolly offense* and Francis with his clueless *ISO is my only strength* skills. Rudy does best with wise veterans. Not rookies. And especially not clueless rookies.

    Both were a match made in Hell. Maybe, if we had THIS team, Rudy could have done better. Just like Rudy did under Hakeem carrying the team; and then later Drexler. But having both Rudy and Francis on the same team was the worst thing that could have happened. Saying, "biggest Rocket mistake of all time" is hindsight 20/20. It's easy to say that now. But it was a progression. Rudy was fired partially due to Francis. And then, after one year under JVG, Francis was traded. It makes it clear were the problems were (freezing out Yao didn't help either). I mean, can you imagine someone suggesting we trade Francis in 2002 (just to save Rudy's job)? No way. Back then, there were still a ton of Francis fans in Houston willing to give him more time. Thus, the coach is the usually the first one to go; because they blamed Rudy for not being able to "teach" Francis to play the right way.
     
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  17. Texas Stoke

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    Comparing Orlando and Los Angelas offense to the Houston Rockets, thats funny. Tell me, what is that you notice thats different between those two teams? Could it perhaps be a lumbering 7'6 center? If your hoping for a coach to give you an offense at its best that is more threatning than the Spurs offense than your going to be left very dissapointed. With Yao Ming as the focus of this offense, and thats how it should be right now, at best, what we can hope for is an offense as effiecient as San Antonios, led by Tim Duncan. We aren't quite there yet, but we're close.
     
  18. DavidS

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    Good point. The Rockets staff made a concerted effort to make this team more and more Yao-centric over the last two years.

    1) Rudy was fired because of his "failures" to get Francis to play intelligently with Yao.
    2) Francis was traded because the Rockets management wanted to make this team more Yao-centric and it was clear that Francis didn't want to (regardless of who was coaching; it would have happened sooner or later).
    3) We'll never be a run-and-gun team (King or Mavs like) as long as Yao is a central part of this team. He's not as mobile as Hakeem, Duncan or Shaq.

    Love it or hate it. We are a Yao-centric team. McGrady, at least, gives us a scoring option who doesn't turn the ball over very much.
     
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    I have said it before. JVG's biggest contribution was exposing Francis' inadequacy as the franchise player. (Again, I'm not saying that Francis is a bad player. He's just not good enough to carry a franchise no matter who the coach is.)

    Now Francis is gone. JVG's mission is pretty much complete. If only we could get Rudy back to coach this current team. He would be on a tear with this bunch!
     
  20. Master Baiter

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    Threads like this are why I stay in the other forums. I'm not naming any because I dont want anyone following me.
     

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