wow. some real softies in here. i got hit with a hanger when i did something bad. many a plastic hanger was broken on me back in the day. And guess what, it taught me not to do stupid ****. all of you guys ranting about how traumatic this is to the kids, i'd rather have the kids learn that if you do something bad, it has bad consequences. that's how the world works. i'm not sure the screaming was real effective, but you want the woman to die? psshhhhhh. weak.
There is nothing wrong with disciplining your children. If you think this is acceptable discipline that is productive for this child's mental development, you're just wrong.
Actually, I don't support what she did. She could have handled it better. If I knew her, I probably wouldn't invite her over for dinner. What do I support is her right to raise her child the way she wants to (within the confounds of the law). Even douches bags have rights in America AFAIK
Meh big freaking deal. There is no physical abuse such as hitting. A little harsh but this will not screw the child up when he gets older.
I'd be interested to see how old all the individuals are in this thread. I also know that I saw far worse as a kid (at times). Things in the mom's favor: 1) Wasn't acting out of anger. She sounds upset, but she isn't coming up with things on the fly and/or losing her head. The kid knew what the punishments would be. They were calculated. 2) Didn't beat the kid. 3) Did a good job emphasizing, repeatedly said exactly what he did, why he was in trouble, and had him tell her what he did and what the punishment was. 4) Neither the hot sauce nor the shower were going to hurt or injure the kid. He didn't have to drink a cup of hot sauce, and it wasn't black label Texas Pete or Sriracha. Bad taste, feel cold. Both of which are over and gone within minutes. It's all the difference in the world when you have a set punishment for a specific action and when you have a parent that loses their temper and starts raging on a kid. I am a dad now, I had a mom that did lose her temper and crossed the line with me when I was a kid, but not the point that I would describe it as child abuse. She had a dad that she says physically abused her. Used to live in a world of "spare the rod, spoil the child." Now we live in a time where kids video tape their parents and put it on youtube to get back at their parents for discipline. I have friends whose two boys (3,4) are indefensible bratty pieces of crap. Uncontrolled, run amock in public making a scene, and laugh when the parents "reason" and "negotiate" with them. They need a backhand on their backside, period, and are the result of never seeing it. My kid is going to be spanked. He's going to be punished. But he's not going to be the subject of abuse. Would I do the above to my kid? If he were raging out of control, he could possibly face a cold (lukewarm? not hot?) shower. Not the hot sauce. Timeout chair would probably be the go to. Maybe sit ups.
Softies. When I was a kid I got lashed thoroughly with a scourge fashioned out of electric wires after coming home with unprecedented bad grades. I had been playing too much and not studying like I should. My parents planned it together, set a date and a time for it. It was the most horribly painful thing I had ever experienced, and it changed my life. To this day I am thankful for that spanking, because I am positive that if it had not happened, I would not be where I am today or nearly as successful. I went back to school the next term with ridiculous focus and finished high school best in class. My parents are awesome. I hope I get to be half as good as them when I am blessed with my own children.
That mom shouldn't be treating her kid like that! She needs to respect him! [/kid in video] <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Kn18H3FKDV4?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Kn18H3FKDV4?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> Slap is at 1:58 mark.
I had bamboo shoots pushed up under my fingernails as a kid... I was tied to a stake in a bonfire as a kid... I got buried to my neck in a pile of fire ants as a kid... I knew what would happen if I misbehaved. My parents were consistent in the punishment. They weren't angry when they did it. They explained why I was being doused with gasoline and lit on fire. But they didn't beat me and I am so much better off for it. So what this lady did could not possibly be abuse, right?
All my parents did was spank me. I'm glad they did because I would have been more traumatized if they forced me to eat mayonnaise as punishment.
If I saw that she let her kid talk to her (even before the kid slaps her), I'd probably slap her, too... My kids will never talk to me like that. And, no, I am not going to use HOT SAUCE.
Do you normally take arguments, completely alter them, and use them as reasoning when discussing topics? The harm factor in a splash of hot sauce being swished around in the mouth and a couple of minutes in a cold shower is what? 0.3 on a scale of 1-10? Totally in the ballpark of setting a child on fire.
ugh to the nth degree. What kind of demented family video were they making? Who was the loser just watching and holding the camera? I just can't relate. "Son...go get me my belt -- and the handycam" And as a general rule....there should be a law against parents putting their kids on youtube. For any reason. No good can ever come of that.
And if you think you know what's "productive" for every child, you are most definitely wrong. As many on this board have already attested, punishments far more severe than this have been "productive" to their mental development. Are you saying we're lying? Or could it be that Rashmon's way isn't everyone's way?
