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This is why you should NEVER NEVER Talk To police....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by astros148, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. Smokey

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    Yep, and guess who you're paying to get out of the ticket, if possible? Defense attorneys like the one who made this video.
     
  2. mrpaige

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    I don't go that route.

    The last speeding ticket I got (which has been many years ago), the city had a deferred adjudication thing where if you paid the fine and didn't get another ticket for six months, they wouldn't put the ticket on your driving record.

    I did that.

    My wife, who has gotten a ticket more recently, took the defensive driving option and our insurance rates remained the same.

    I save the defense attorneys for my serious crimes against humanity (though my regular defense attorney was just elected judge. I don't know if that's good or bad for me).
     
  3. DaDakota

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    So we are paying the police's salaries and the defense attorneys too?

    Ugh.

    DD
     
  4. Rashmon

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    Based on some of the responses in this thread, I can fully understand why some of y'all have problems with cops. You bring bad juju upon yourself.

    I can just picture you guys questioning the cop's integrity, asking for a badge number, complaining, or inoring questions on a routine traffic stop.

    It would have been only a warning but the pissant attitude is going to get you a ticket everytime.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Good point. As long as you don't confess to speeding you won't be "****d" and you'll get to go home without a ticket!!!!1

    That said, I'm not saying you have to admit to speeding, but the idea that saying "no sir officer, what did I do" will someone save you is laughable. A cop pulling you over is going to give you a ticket most likely. If anything, you get more points for being honest and respectful then trying to play dumb.

    The only way the "no officer?" comes into play is if you think there are multiple things you could have been pulled over for. If you were speeding, plus you didn't use your turn signal, plus you just ran a red light, plus your registration is expired, then it's best to say no officer just in case he missed whatever you were thinking.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    You are making the assumption that the cop doesn't have the pissant attitude, what if it comes from him/her?

    DD
     
  7. justtxyank

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    I think you have a problem with authority/government.
     
  8. Rashmon

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    Exhibit A
     
  9. DaDakota

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    LOL - at people making assumptions based upon an internet conversation.

    All I am saying is that humans are fallable, and just because you put on a badge etc, does not make you any more credible as a person.

    People are people.

    What happens if the Cops wife left him that morning, or his dog died, or maybe his son just got arrested for smoking pot? And he approaches your car for a ticket......do you think, maybe just maybe, he might have the pissant attitude?

    Why do you assume that the person is always the problem?

    I believe life's pressures and being an arsehole is not limited to non-cops....but that the percentage of arseholes in the cop world is going to be equal to the percentage in the non-cop world.

    Is that such a stretch?

    DD
     
  10. Lil Pun

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    Nice post.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Of course things can impact the way a cop behaves just like an insurance adjuster, etc., but it's just not the norm for a cop to walk up and treat you like trash.

    Most of the people who feel like you do have an inherent problem with police officers before they ever deal with one.
     
  12. Rashmon

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    If you have a broken taillight, fail to use a turn signal, weave, speed, etc. and get pulled over for it, what does it matter?
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Totally agree.

    What about the times that it is just late at night and the cop is pulling you over with a trumped up charge just to check you out?

    Do you think that is ok?

    DD
     
  14. Lil Pun

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    Yes, and they call those "courtesy stops." I was riding with my sister and she got pulled over because one of the lights that illuminates her license plate was out. The officer said it wasn't against the law but he just wanted to inform her. Still ran all of her information and it took about 10 minutes total. Courtesy my ass.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Amazing !

    Whatever happened to simply pulling someone over, and saying...hey, your tail light is out, get it fixed or next time you will get a ticket.

    DD
     
  16. 3814

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    The problem with your logic is that you are taking an issue that is highly applicable to your job - drunk driving - and applying it to other occupations.

    I could just as easily turn it around.

    If an office janitor continuously left floaters in the toilet and it hit the news (which is possible, assuming the relation between the action and his job), he would likely never get another job in his industry (assuming the potential employers recognized him).

    On the other hand, if a police office continuously left floaters in the toilet - nobody would care and it would surely never hit the news.

    Therefore, with your logic...janitors are held to a higher standard.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    Terrible analogy. Higher standard with regards to the law is what was being discussed.

    And to debunk your analogy, there are plenty of people in nearly all industries who do a piss poor job and it doesn't make the news and if they DO get fired, they easily catch on somewhere else.

    If a cop screws up, it often times is newsworthy. If they do get a criminal record they are done.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Unless it is all swept under the rug by their good buddies in law enforcement.

    I mean, you never see Cops just running red lights becuase they...uh...can.

    I remember in San Marcos one night as I was locking up the bar, the police were drag racing their cars down the main street.....

    I asked one of my officer friends about it (he was working the door) and he laughed and said they do it all the time to see who buys breakfast.

    I am sure they were racing to a higher standard though.

    DD
     
  19. Lil Pun

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    No, no, no it wasn't a tail light it was a light above the license plate that illuminates the plate, sort of like a Christmas light.
     
  20. 3814

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    If that's the case, I agree. But police officer's aren't alone...consider:

    -lawyers
    -judges
    -politicians
    -teachers
    -principals
    -pastors
    -elders
    -athletes
    -movie stars
    -famous musicians
    -public figures

    I could go on. All I'm saying is that following the law is a requirement for the job. Do all teachers follow the law? No, and they're caught! Do all cops follow the law? No...but it's often swept under the rug.

    My analogy to janitors was simply to say that everybody is held to a higher standard within their own profession. If a janitor stole supplies, it would raise hell...
     

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