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THIS is why N. Korea is Different from Iraq

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MadMax, May 27, 2003.

  1. Jonhty

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    I think it's a cultural thing that boys are favoured over girls by many parents in rural area. so if you want to blame, blame the culture not the policy for causing many girls to be abandoned. I would agree that this aspect of culture is against human rights. but thankfully, it's changing now.


    Tibet may not have been a threat to anyone else. but China has its own legitimate reasons to occupy Tibet, irrespective of what the rest of the world thinks . America did the same thing. they invaded a country for a reason that the rest of world didn't agree. it could even be argued the case for China occupying Tibet is stronger than that for America invaded Iraq, if I have time to do the research. yes, the two scenarios are different. but they're similar enough to make my point.

    1. ok. let me clarify my position. I'm actually with you here. I also think softwares should not be free of charge.
    2. my point is that it can be argue for the opposite. Richard Stallman, the founder of the free software foundation(GNU), actually made a strong case for that. do a search on google to find out more. I took a software security course last year in which I did quite a lot of work on copyright, software patent, etc.

    i said before china doesn't have an effective way to enforce it. what i said was in response to DD's "China doesn't recognize copyrights" comment. i keep touch with my friends back in China. the message i got is that software piracy is not as blatant as it used to be. so i believe they are serious to enforce it.

    a lot can be debated. I learned a lot of theories back in China that can answer what you said. i am not saying i can win it, but there's someting to debate. again, i'm not going to. at least, i agree with your last sentence.
     
  2. Jonhty

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    the reverse of that is exactly the point i tried to make in the first place.
     
  3. r35352

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    DD, you wrote specifically that "China does NOT follow most international laws". But what international laws are you specifically saying it doesn't follow?

    You say it doesn't respect many human rights but are human rights part of internationally recognized international law? I don't believe so. Neither is limiting children a violation of any internationally recognized international law that I know of. As for Tibet, its only a violation of international law if China invaded a recognized independent country which Tibet, rightly or wrongly, has never been so considered by the "international community". As for copyright violations, in what way does China NOT follow them? Do you mean lack of enforcement by pirates or do you mean the govt itself pirates? If the former, then I don't think that qualifies as NOT following copyright laws. If the latter, then on the basis of that alone, it still doesn't qualify as not following MOST international law.

    My point here is NOT to defend Chinese actions or policies but merely to point out that your specific criticism that China does NOT recognize MOST international laws is NOT proven by any arguments you have made thus far.
     
  4. chinawang

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    In my company, every softwares were paid, Windows2000 , Autocad, Photoshop, Acdsee, CATIA, etc.
    The price of software installed in computer is higher than that of PC, this is the truth, I pledge.

    I admit china doesn't have an effective way to enforce it, but it is completely wrong that they don't recognize any copy right laws.
     
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  5. Refman

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    I don't know...it has seemed to work for you time and again.
     
  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    THIS is why N. Korea is Different from Iraq:

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