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This is not a government of the people

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. biina

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    Simply shows how much of a see-thru your facade and pretenses are
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    Bandwagoner is a cuck tbh, you lose by humiliating him—it’s just playing out his bull fantasy
     
  3. robbie380

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    Lol you are living in a world that isn’t reality. You should watch some different news channels other than CNN or MSNBC. Maybe try reading some international news and get a different perspective on things and you’ll see that things aren’t very rosy between the US and Russia like you want to believe.
     
  4. Downtown Sniper

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    Oh, no. No, no you possibly couldn't have taken that from what I said.

    Over it. Your head. That comment. It went.
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    Nah, it was a Freudian slip by you. It's okay bro.
     
  6. Downtown Sniper

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    You know what, it will be ok.

    With America being made great again, everything will be ok.
     
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    He needs to get out of Whoopie’s vagina.
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  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Blood will still be spilled in non-violent resistance. It will just be those who rise us will be the ones whose blood will be spilled. Revolution is revolution.

    Besides, I quoted that line as a sign of respect to the Tea Party.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    My friend, it is you who are in a delusional bubble, a prison to a mindset that can not question what it thinks.

    I'm not even a freakin liberal that's the most hilarious thing. But your crazy is so crazy, moderates are now liberals.

    Tell you what, why don't you try traveling to Mexico and speaking to Mexicans, and to China, and to India, and to Africa, and to any Arabic speaking country - then come back and lecture people who you have no business condescending to about perspective!
     
  12. robbie380

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    Thanks and I don’t watch Fox News unless I’m bored and want to see what people are ranting about...same goes for msnbc or cnn. Also, I question everything I think. You seem to regurgitate dogmatic overly emotional talking points that mirror things coming out of MSNBC and places with similar views. Maybe I'm wrong and you don't actually watch that channel often. Where do you get most of your news?

    And if you think you are a moderate then you should reread what you wrote and recognize how absurdly melodramatic it is. Maybe you are just showing a small part of your personality on clutchfans and we only get to see a small side of you and your opinions.

    And what do you want me to talk to Mexicans about? I talk to them often. They have their own problems with their own politicians.

    Here’s some Indian opinions of America, Americans, and Trump



    Here’s some Chinese opinions of Trump




    Africa is a big place which part of Africa are we talking about?

    Arabs that's a complex one, but I think the Iranians have a much bigger problem with Trump and America than the Arabs, but we have pretty much been a bull in a china shop over in the Arab countries and Iran for about 6 decades. So I hope you aren't implying that things have become worse under Trump over in those Arab speaking nations.

    What is your point with mentioning these places? Most places don't care about America anywhere near as much as we care about ourselves.
     
  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You talk about perspective - and I am telling you watching clips on Youtube isn't how you get a perspective on the US. Trump has sunk the opinion of the entire world's opinion in the US except one place - Russia. (Even Israel's think Trump is a buffoon even though they like his policies).

    MSNBC - I don't watch any cable news. I get my news from a mix mash of sources - none of them considered liberal. A range from Politico to NPR to 1010 wins to the failing NY Times (which used to be considered leaning conservative 15 years ago).
     
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  14. adoo

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    this is 5 a months old video, before Trump's cruel "forced family separation" was exposed.

    i'd take the considered opinion of Bobby Gindal, fomer Gov of LA, as more representative.
    like Senator Marco Rubio, Gindal considers Trump a con man.


    these are videos from 2017, before the trade war.

    my news source includes SCMP and EJ Insight, where some of the letters to editors
    use 笨 七 to describe Trump; 笨 七 is a vulgar Cantonese slang for dumb sh it
     
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    SCMP gives mostly the Hong Kong view on things. I haven't been there recently, but was working in Singapore for a few months earlier this year and the opinion of people I worked with there (mostly academics and college students) about Trump was, I'd say, 75% positive. They view many of the policies and social trends of the Obama era as bordering on lunacy and Trump as 'running a tight ship', 'good for business' (as they would put it).

    Singaporeans have the benefit of traveling abroad frequently, so they are exposed to many different sources of information, where as Chinese in the PRC tend only to know whatever their communist government tells them... so their opinions of Obama, Trump, or anyone else may well not have much correspondence with reality.
     
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    you know about the umbrella revolution in HK, no?

    HK has a good pulse of West, as well as the PRC.



    it appears that you accept the jaundice view of the Singa snobs at face value

    fyi, A scholarly dissertation, by 2 Aussie professors, on Singaporean elitism / caste system, snobbishness and entitlement

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    Singapore is the quintessential nanny state,
    • a micro-managed Asian cosmopolitan society with hints of Orwellian repression and
      ignorant bliss. Living in Singapore is really akin to slitting your own wrist while
      immersing in a warm bath; you feel comfortable but you are dying every second.
     
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  17. SugarLandFan

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    when talking with Singaporeans, I never accept any of their opinions as gospel truth -- they're just opinions, which they're entitled to. I find some aspects of their society admirable, others not so admirable. They have their intellectual limitations, but probably far fewer than, say, the Mongolians.

    Incidentally, I asked them what would happen if an American family of four were to stay in their country for a year without valid visas. A coworker whose brother works in the Immigration Service told me that the children, so long as they are minors, would be declared without fault and sent home to relatives (grandparents, aunts/uncles, whoever agreed to take them in). The father would be sentenced to 6 months in prison (all-male, obviously) and the mother would be sentenced to six months in a female prison. In other words, they would break up the family unit, and none of the 8-10 Singaporeans I discussed this with over lunch one day considered that cruel or unusual... just a reasonable way to apply the law.

    Singaporeans put a lot of emphasis on the family unit and financial success. They tended to view the Trump administration as a better defender of (traditional) families than Obama, whom they often criticized in my presence as being too beholden to the gay/lesbian/AltFamily crowed. They also tended to think that Trump's economic policies would be better for America, though they were quite divided as to whether Trumponomics would benefit Singapore. A lot of Singaporeans have made good money in the PRC through business deals supported by the Obama administration but which the Singaporeans, frankly, had to scratch their heads and wonder why Obama was so generous to the Chinese... to a level they considered absurd/unwise.
     
  18. adoo

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    they choose to keep a blind eye on Trump's forced-family separation practice.
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    fyi, Singapre has been the haven for laundered $$ from China, Europe, Indonesia

    http://www.spiegel.de/international...tax-haven-that-now-faces-reform-a-930998.html
     
  19. SugarLandFan

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    The almost unanimous opinion I encountered over there was: If the parents are dumb enough to break the immigration laws, they darn well deserve to have their family separated... and they consider the Singaporean government generous/humanitarian insofar as the children are not punished but instead sent to live with (presumably loving) relatives in their home country.

    I spend about half the year overseas and regardless of what country I'm working in, I never seriously consider the idea of staying there illegally (i.e. no valid visa). If I did such a thing and got caught, I wouldn't start boo-hoo-ing and complaining that the host country's immigration authorities are being 'meanies' for punishing me / kicking me out. This is pretty much the accepted way that immigration works around the world but for some reason, many people think the USA should handle illegal immigration differently from the rest of the world.
     
  20. adoo

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    no argument from me.


    your piecemeal narrative misses the point.

    you do know about Trump's forced family separation works.

    the border guards targeted families w children, then kidnap the children and separate them from the adult / parents
    because of this, only 30% of illegal crossing by those w no children have been detained​
     
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