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This guy can't be serious when he writes this, can he?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cptnbreakdance, Jan 21, 2014.

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  1. cptnbreakdance

    cptnbreakdance Member

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    Link: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10327201/nba-there-big-4-teams-how-much-better-they


    You need Insider to read, but in this "article," the author goes through a list of a few teams, and explains what their "Path to contention" will be.

    The Rockets need to "Upgrade their perimeter D." No big deal there, but read what they say about the Brooklyn Nets:

    "Brooklyn Nets | Path to contention: Trade for Omer Asik.

    We're putting the Nets on this list for two reasons: 1. They received East champ buzz before the season and 2. They've surged as of late, winning seven of their past eight. Of all the East teams in the non-Heat/Pacers division, the Nets probably have the highest ceiling. Question is: How can they get there?

    It won't be with Brook Lopez, who is out for the season after undergoing major foot surgery that will table him until next season. They've gotten by with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce holding down the front line, but that's a surefire way to burn out Garnett before the playoffs come around. Here's the safety net: deal for Asik.

    The Nets are tied with the Blazers in the defensive efficiency rankings, so it's no surprise that they could use Asik as well. But it's an open question as to whether the Nets have the assets to meet the Rockets' asking price. The Rockets probably won't listen until Lopez is included, but the Rockets don't need him long-term with Howard already in the fold. With that said, it's the only way a deal gets done. Would the all-in Nets consider swapping Shaun Livingston, Andrei Kirilenko and Lopez for Asik, Parsons and Jeremy Lin?"



    Is this guy serious? Why would the Rockets ever agree to that kind of trade? I'm just flabbergasted as to how far this guy's head is shoved up his a**.
     
    #1 cptnbreakdance, Jan 21, 2014
  2. Raven

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    He's just playing to his audience.
     
    #2 Raven, Jan 21, 2014
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    Maybe the salaries would work but from a basketball prospective...NO :confused:
     
    #3 plee, Jan 21, 2014
  4. Rockets12

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    Yes of course the Nets would consider than. The Rockets on the other hand....
     
    #4 Rockets12, Jan 21, 2014
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    ...then trade Joe Johnson for LeBron!
     
    #5 IzakDavid13, Jan 21, 2014
  6. tada

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    I am fan of Asik, but I think OP is way over-valuing Asik. Lopez alone is probably worth Asik/Lin/Parsons. Healthy Kirilenko is more valuable then Parsons. Especially if you want to contend immediately.
     
    #6 tada, Jan 21, 2014
  7. BonziWellsGOAT

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    My thoughts:

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    BonziWellsGOAT Member

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    those were definately a third party authors words not the OP's
     
    #8 BonziWellsGOAT, Jan 21, 2014
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    Broken foot 2 out of the last 3 years, the word chronic starts to come to mind, Lopez isn't worth much at all.
     
    #9 Aleron, Jan 21, 2014
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    A healthy Brook Lopez? Yes
    A breakdown Lopez? No chance in hell.
     
    #10 Alvin Choo, Jan 21, 2014
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    Lopez alone worth Asik/Lin/Parsons?

    Seriously?

    Asik is a better defender and rebounder than Lopez. Lopez is good, sure. And if he is healthy there is no doubt that he would be worth more than Asik. But all three? Even if he was healthy that would be a no way. Throw in the fact that he's injured and that is just crazy.
     
    #11 photojoe, Jan 21, 2014
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    This is absurd. What is a healthy Kirilenko? Also is a prime Kirilenko even more valuable than Parsons? Why would the rockets who lack depth already trade for a guy who has had 2 season ending surgeries in back to back seasons(dont forget Brook is getting paid the max)?
     
    #12 conundrum, Jan 21, 2014
  13. awc713

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    yeaaaaaaah this is just a byproduct of ESPN catering to their market and not recognizing the rockets as an actual NBA team.

    after all, our job is to feed east coast teams--right?

    we should trade for amare while we're at it...maybe straight up for dwight.

    actually they have chandler, hopefully harden will suffice
     
    #13 awc713, Jan 21, 2014
  14. JayZ750

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    I'm not sure I'd trade a healthy Asik for a healthy Lopez (team fit issues aside).

    Lopez is great offensively. He's average defensively and a horrible rebounder.
    Asik is great at rebounding and great defensively. He's average at best offensively.

    But in today's NBA, offense is easier to come by, be it by virtue of style (eg. Rockets last year), or simply players that can score, score, score, but not do much else... which is a more readily available player than your defensive stud.

    The Pacers are so imposing because of Hibbert's defensive presence. The Spurs have been so dominant throughout the years principally because of the way they shut down the middle. The Bulls for a few years (when they had Asik) were great because they shut down the middle. Even the Thunder are fantastic defensively. The Blazers... not so much, and that's why no one really takes them seriously.

    Maybe if Lopez did at least one other thing great. If he was a solid offensive center and an above average rebounder. Plus of course be healthy.

    This is definitely a dumb article.
     
    #14 JayZ750, Jan 21, 2014
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    WTF?

    AK is currently averaging 5/3/1 on a terrible team, CP is averaging 17/5/3 on a winning team. In what world is he more valuable than Parsons? I know he was a defensive stopper in his heyday but it's not 2004 anymore. And if anyone is over-rated it's Lopez. He has a nice offensive game but his rebounding and defense (you know, the things you want out of your center) are absolutely terrible, and he's injury prone, and he would play behind our best player.
     
    #15 BONIERO1576, Jan 21, 2014
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    We're supposed to be interested in trading our 3rd best player, our 6th man off the bench and our back up center for a PG we chose not to sign, a injury prone/over the hill AK47 and another center (who's injury prone and out for the season?).


    Is this writer based in Denver or Washington?
     
    #16 c1utchfan925, Jan 21, 2014
  17. tada

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    Put it this way. Who is more valuable, Rajon Rondo or Brook Lopez? I would bet Brook Lopez. Fans here have no problem trading Rajon Rondo for Asik/Lin + draft pick, yet you guys are against Brook Lopez? It doesn't have to be fit issue, Morey could flip Lopez to get us better asset (aka 3rd star). All Star Center in NBA is rare commodity. PGs not so much (unless you are CP3).
    Parson is asset to Rockets to be flipped for 3rd star. Do you see Rockets paying him true market value when his contract is up? And still expect to get 3rd star? I don't think so. Kirilenko, when healthy, can provide us with much better two way player who can guard multiple positions.
     
    #17 tada, Jan 21, 2014
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We would never give up parsons for anything short of a super star in return.
     
    #18 Sweet Lou 4 2, Jan 21, 2014
  19. c1utchfan925

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    Agreed, Lopez is great offensively and he's was putting up good stats in the blocks department... but can't rebound properly for a 7 footer and has foot issues. If only both of Lopez brothers could become one complete player..
     
    #19 c1utchfan925, Jan 21, 2014
  20. CRJames14

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    In the same article he mentions Asik for Wesley Mathews…

    I'd do a Asik/Dmo/Brewer/1st for Mathews/Lopez deal…

    Keep in mind our pick will be late in the first round.
     
    #20 CRJames14, Jan 21, 2014
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