This dude is starting to get on my nerves! (Houston Chronicle)

aw man, if we could get rashard i'd be in rocket heaven. the guy is tmac lite, we'll have a legitimate scorer who can fill it up from all over the place. sadly, i dont think the sonics are going to give up lewis for a fat egomaniac in wells, not matter what else we give them

 

It's a pretty easy message to read:

The bus is leaving with or without you. Hop on if you want to be a part of the team. Otherwise, go where you want.

 

or another way to read the message...

jvg: how are you gentlemen... no... not you bonzi.
wells: what you say?
jvg: all your pine are belong to you.



whether it be span or bonzi, we could be better with a little more new blood out there. it'd be nice to have both, but one will suffice.

 

If they tank and Rashard says he is opting out, they will have to move him, for salary cap relief, picks, and young players. What deal would be better than getting rid of $12-13 million of guaranteed deals in exchange for only $6.5 million next year plus expirings, plus a pick and possibly a young shooter in Novak? Or what if they really wanted to free up some cap space and wanted to dump both Rashard and Watson for the same basic players give or take Novak for somebody else? Pretty tempting. Rashard and Earl Watson for Juwan, Bonzi, Novak, Sura's contract, and our pick. Still, don't know if Rashard plays enough D. But with him and Battier around Yao and McGrady, that is a pretty solid four guys.

I really think we should see if we can get Mo Pete away from Toronto. He's an expiring and will probably walk, especially if they continue not starting him. He's a good shooter and has been a very good perimeter defender in the past. We could trade for him and then sign him to an extension, and then we have our MLE to use to re-sign Lil Chuckie next year.

Another possible deal would be to send Bonzi and Sura's deals to the Lakers for Shammond Williams and Aaron McKie's deals. We use the TE to snag those 2 expiring contracts and send LA to other expiring deals and create another TE our direction for about $5.9 million. I'd do that deal, especially if Bonzi is not going to play here. Get the TE and play another day with it.

 

Bonzi to JVG:

All your donuts are belong to us!

 

Bonzi will never see the court as a Rocket.

 

Hes' starting..

 

look like Bonzi is going down the route of guy likes Rider...

 

Umm ok, newsflash. We are tied for Dallas for second to last in the division. But I believe Dallas has won 7 straight as of tonight. So like I said. Second to last in the division.

 

Ok first of all, show me anything that lists him or states he is 270. No freaking way this man, who I watched play in the Dallas game was sniffing 270. Anyone really think he weighs that much? I mean come on.

If YOU choose to believe this then so be it.

And what dose exactly did JVG give him. A few mins playing bit parts in two games? If this was the case, what did JVG prove exactly? That Bonzi didnt do much in the few minutes that were allocated to him. Lets see in a whopping 15 mins per game those two nights, he averaged 4 boards, grabbed three offensive in one game. Averaged a steal a game, and dished out some assists. Except for a low shooting percentage (not given the chance to really work this out) I dont see what wells did to prove to JVG that he wasnt ready for the next three weeks.

Yep, Those people are the same people who cry about Stro's LIMITED performance in LIMITED minutes, but applaud same numbers from Battier, in many more minutes. WEIRD.

TMac cant say anything. Think about it, or he would be labeled a complainer. Yao wouldnt talk crap about any coach. Regardless. I dont know what your supposing to prove here.

Without digging up Barry's quotes, he didnt exactly sound like he was saying he was being given a fair chance. His words werent a resounding endorsement either.

OMG. Really. Your using this as your "Francis was a troublemaker" argument. I guess that made John Elway a constant problem due to his resistance to play for the colts. Like I said. Show me any negative thing any coach has had to offer about Steve, besides JVG.

Then that makes the Rox front office idiots for signing him to begin with. DA wasnt brought here to be the shooter, is this really what you were expecting from DA? If so, you are completely out of touch.

Because to you Chuck Hayes is da bomb for fumbling away layups, being a total offensive liability, and getting about as many boards as Stro did with less ability to block shots, get steals, garner points. Even MORE brilliant.

In case you didnt realize, the Rocks have lost to every team with a winning record they have played, except the Mavs who are now on a tear and could pass us in the division to leave us in sole position in second to last place in the division. Especially if the Rox keep blowing leads, and losing to good teams...like they are on the verge of blowing another game right now late in the game, after they had a big lead. Seems like they could use a third option.

 

If you choose to believe Stro Swift is anywhere near as good as Battier, then there's no sense in having this discussion. Goodnight.

Enjoy your Bonzi-love.

I'm in the wait and see mode about Bonzi. If he want in the team, fine. If he wants out, fine. In the mean time, minutes that would have gone to him goes to Luther, Spanoulis, etc.

Your move, Bonzi Wells.

 

Yep, "family issue" = Thanksgiving.

JVG is just not calling Bonzi out. 1) This keeps Bonzi from being totally alienated. 2) If it becomes obvious Bonzi is unusable for the Rox, his trade value drops. Everyone will know we're dying to dump him.

Bonzi is just not a wise dude. I'm sure he's not exactly clean and sober either. Head not on straight. Nice contract management Bonzi! Doing wonders for your free agency value right now.

 

news flash. We won tonight too. So we are still the 3rd and NOK lost, we are actually closer to the 2nd. Does that make us better?
This little evidence to support your claim is just not convincing. This is a tough division. Top 3 teams will probably end up in top5 in the West. Plus it is still early in the season, it's too early to use our record to prove anything, negatively or positively. We aint that bad as you claimed at least.

 

Does it matter if he was 270? All I know is the Bonzi Wells who nearly got stuffed by the rim on a breakaway dunk was not in shape. Arguing that he should be playing when he looked like that and hasn't even been traveling with the team is a little ridiculous.

Retrospect gives advantage to JVG in this one. Francis is/was a limited player, who is/was paid and thought that he's an unlimited player. We were fortunate, and parlayed him into TMac. Meanwhile, the Magic realized it and got pennies on the dollar; now, he's coming off the bench for an awful team. But sure, 3 NBA franchises are wrong on this one...

Are you seriously making an argument for Stro over Hayes? That's brilliant.

Edit: For kicks, I took a look at the numbers, and Stro last year and Hayes this year both averaged 20.4 minutes (not counting today's game). Stro grabbed 4.4 rebounds; Hayes, 6.6. Last I checked, that's 50% more rebounds.

Saying they got "about as many rebounds" is like saying Juwan Howard last year grabbed "about as many rebounds" (6.7) as Elton Brand (10.0).

You must seriously live a bitter life? An hour and a half later, we're now tied for 2nd place in the division (or 3rd to last, as you prefer). Better yet, we're tied for 4th best record in the league (or 22nd worst, as you prefer) - and two of our 4 losses came to two of the three teams ahead of us.

Further, our 7 road games are tied for 4th most in the league (the Lakers, one of 3 teams ahead of us have only played 3), and we're taking care of business at home with a 4-1.

For everything wrong, this team is on pace for 55 wins.

 

I was going to respond to DreamShake and take his post seriously, until he actually made a case that Hayes was worst or the same as Stromile Swift AND that what Stromile Swift and Battier bring to a team is equivalent.

After reading that I know he must be JOKING! Right? .... He cant surely be serious, can he? Nah gots to be insane sarcasm! Gots to be!

 

He was a little too creative in spinning our record to make his argument. Not that his claim is a necessarily bad one( we could indeed use some of Bonzi if he can be that 3rd scorer), he just didnt have to paint "the sky is falling" picture to establish it

 

I'm 100% with you. Good post

 

Compare Stro with Battier? Wow, I'm really surprised by your BRILLIANT basketball knowledge.

 

i bet Bonzi is traded by new years, whatever the trade is and if others from the team are involved or not, we must bring in another scorer, if not then we might as well just keep him

 

If I remember correctly, Bonzi came into camp at 268, about 53 pounds heavier than w/his run with the Kings, which he actually slimmed down for after an uneventful stint with the Grizzlies.

I took this from the other Bonzi thread.