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This country is going to hell

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by MFW2310, Jul 7, 2005.

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  1. MFW2310

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    Confront whom? An 11 year old kid? Congratulations bully, you're real brave aren't you. Hey, why go and run "to a message board to whine about it to a bunch of strangers" when you can wring an 11 year old's neck? The kid is already misbehaving before I do that, but hey, I'll bet that I would be a real nice influence by the time I'm through with him.

    But OK, since you've given your thumbs up, your green light, next time I will do that. And then I won't be a "passive-aggressive p***y" because I kicked the crap out of some 11 year old and his mother because of my "hurt feelings."

    Yeah I probably should have told him and his mother that I didn't care for that, but you know what, you are something else.

    PS. I guess everything else stopped with what's going on in London/Iraq.
     
  2. MFW2310

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    Hehe, that's a good slap to the face. But to our credit, we were using protection. Let's look at this as my one mistake in life...
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    MFW, man, I told you not to bother looking in here anymore. Donny's only trying to look out for ya here, man.
     
  4. wnes

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    Well said. MFW I have to say if you really care about this country you choose to live in, you should probably look more at the brighter side and think what you can do to make it better. As I looked through the thread, there are at least as many people showing sympathy to your unpleasant encounter as those who elected to quip sarcasm or otherwise. Look at this way, youth problems are not limited to US - they are pretty much ubiquitous throughout the world, only differing in degrees. My final words: you've made your case (appropriate thread title or not), just let it go, all the fighting with other confrontational posters.
     
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  5. Mr. Clutch

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    After reading through this thread, this country definitely is going to hell.
     
  6. Refman

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    Please. Give me a break. This is the most insane thing I have read on this board...ever.

    Look around you. Kids are rolling on the floor screaming in stores, causing disruptions in restaurants and talking loudly through the 10:00pm movie. It's everywhere. The parents sit there and do nothing.

    What do all of these things have in common? They are things that my parents and all of the parents I knew growing up would simply not allow.

    The world has changed.
     
  7. Isabel

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    No kidding. What a weird thread. I didn't think anything MFW said was that bad... I mean, the title was an obvious hyperbole used to get attention (we all do it), and the mention of race was just that. No one can prove from this particular post that he was mentioning it for any reason, or inferring anything about that race in general. I don't know what he's said elsewhere or in other threads, but it doesn't apply here.

    And why do you think so many of us stay out of D&D? (I'm surprised this thread hasn't been sent over there.) Just that... hostility. You get where you're afraid to express your opinion. If we're concerned about society, we could all start by trying to be civil to each other.
     
  8. Coach AI

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    I'm not even going to touch all the hate in this thread, or whatever past history there is with this MFW guy, or how the event detailed in the first post wasn't major enough to come to the conclusions it did.

    But as someone who worked a lot of retail, particularly video game store retail, I can agree with one thing:


    There are a lot of sh*tty parents in this world.



    Much thanks to those of you out there who try and bring your kids up right.
     
  9. francis 4 prez

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    yeah, apparently this is the first time some people on here have encountered the concept of hyperbole (especially leehoang and his moronic rants). i figured people would be eating this up and see more posts like Refman's but apparently criticizing kids' behavior is grounds for death by stoning these days (hey, what was that statement an example of again?).

    we just finished having a thread where everyone complained about all the people who don't know how to work the self-checkout lines at grocery stores. apparently, unless all of those people had stopped to assist anyone having problems with the machine or stopped them after they were through to break down where things went wrong, they had no right to do a little ranting.

    as for confronting them? what good could that do? the controntation sure as hell isn't going to change anything the mother does to raise her child. you can't confront the freakin' 11 year old b/c you know how seriously all the 11 year old door slammers of the world take people. and some people seemed to miss the part of the story where he did it on purpose.

    you can't confront the mother b/c apparently she saw it and did nothing. what should you do, explain that it wasn't a figment of her imagination? and she might make a big commotion out of it all which is certainly not worth the hassle and possible problems that could come from that.

    you're basically stuck, so venting a little in this thread is probably the most peaceful way to go about it. or maybe we should all spend 20 years in jail every time someone scuffs our Pumas.
     
  10. Relativist

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    this thread is surreal. Talk about people jumping to conclusions. :eek:

    I know tensions are high, and people may have disapproved of what others said, but if you're read this far, I'd like to remind us of a few things.

    We're all (well, mostly) Rockets fans. We're all human beings. We're all sad about London today (I hope). We all want things to get better.

    And to conclude this latest installment of jumping around, here is a link to the lyrics of Hey Jude.

    http://www.brave.com/bo/lyrics/heyjude.htm
     
  11. MFW2310

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    Let me try to put thing in perspective here:

    On April 28th of this year, I was late and was trying to catch the bus. Then suddenly out of the blue, this guy bumps into me. I was annoyed, but I just assumed it was an accident, until he said "woh, why did you bump into me." I looked at him in disbelief, but decided to move on. After all, I was late and had a bus to catch.

    It was at this point that this punk pulled out a cell phone, grabbed me by the arm and said "sir, you need to stay here, I'm calling the cops."

    I knew then and there that this wasn't just an accidental bump and that he was a trouble maker. And how do you deal with trouble makers? I said "I'm sorry" and walked towards the bus again.

    But then he grabbed my arm again and said "why did you bump into me, stay here, I'm calling the cops." I lost it. So I told him to f*ck off. Pulled my arm free and kept walking. After that, he repeatedly grabbed my arm four or five more times. Each time I pulled free and got on the bus. So he held up the bus, called the cops and said to them (I'm quoting here) "I was attacked."

    So when the cops showed up, he told them that I "attacked him" and dislocated his shoulder. He even had them call an ambulance and had the paramedics put him in a sling.

    But here is the best part (and the one that bothered me the most): without asking for my side of the story, the cops charge ME with misdemeanor. So I had to appear in front of a judge. Good thing that between my evidence and my eye witness, the charges were dropped during the inital hearing. I must be the first guy ever to be charged for letting somebody else bump into me.

    After the hearing, the guy was waiting for me outside the courthouse, intending on causing trouble. I would have gladly put a hole in his head but:
    1. It wouldn't have looked very good on my part, especially after a trial
    2. When my fiancee got pregnant a year ago, I said to myself, "wow, MFW, you sure has done a lot of stupid **** in your life." So I vowed to protect my family, be a good example to my son. More specifically, I vowed to stop drinking and stop fighting. Despite having gone cold turkey, I'm proud to say I have done both so far. So I wasn't gonna fight the guy

    As I result, I just avoided him. It was very unpleasant and a great waste of time, but as far I was concerned, it was over.

    This is until on June 15th. I was walking home at around 10:33 at night on a stretch of street where there is street lamps. I saw two people coming towards me. As they were long haired and I couldn't make out their faces, I assumed they were girls. So I stepped on the grass and let them pass. However, little did I know that one of them was actually this guy. As he walked by, he swung his elbow at me very blatantly. Then he said "what the f*ck is your problem, I'm calling the cops." The other person, who actually was a girl, called him away.

    The next day I went to get a protection order. Not because I was afraid of him, but because I had to protect my family... and because I vowed not to fight. Now if anybody could have had a better way to handle this, I'd love to hear it.

    You know what's funny? Back then, I told myself it's just one thug too, despite that things like that happen quite often. All of those happened within the last four months or so. Now, I was carrying my brief case in both that and yesterday's incidents, that's the only thing that's common between the two cases. Boy, people sure hate brief cases. It inflames them.

    And those are just the major cases. There are countless smaller ones in which I didn't mention/forgot. For example, since I started taking count a year ago, I received about 30 prank calls. One of them was a stupid 17 year old with nothing better to do, calling at 3AM, while we were in bed and said "This is the American Sex Association, we just have a few quick questions. Do you enjoy anal sex?" This is the reason why I paid extra to get an unlisted number, so I don't have to deal with idiots like that.

    And you know what? This 11 year old pushed me over the top.

    Now, I had hoped that I didn't have to volunteer this information. But isn't it just great that setting an example for your son is now being a "passive aggressive p***y" instead of taking the high road? Isn't it also great that even when somebody cause trouble when you are minding your own business in broad daylight, SOME people prefer to hide their heads in the sand and to pretend that no problems exist instead of dealing with the issues?

    Like I said, this isn't one of those reactionary posts.

    Yeah I could have done it better. Sure I could have cooled down before I posted. Certainly I probably chose the wrong title and definitely shouldn't have mentioned his race, which was irrelevant. But you know what, if somebody that promotes better understanding, manners, respect and discipline gets bashed, I think that already reflects society today. I have nothing more to say.

    PS. At the advice of DonnyMost and wnes (as well as others whom I may have neglected to mention, apologize), both of whom seem reasonable, this will be the last post for me in this thread. Good night... or good morning.
     
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  12. rockets-#1

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    Oh man, MFW, I gotta say I'm sorry about that situation with the "I'm calling the cops" a-hole. That was so gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)!! That BS is annoying. You definitely handled things well there, good job.
     
  13. pippendagimp

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    Damn :eek:

    It's almost like you got a sign on your back that says 'kick me' :confused:

    MFW, what part of the country do you live in? With all this stuff going on I am going to make sure to never go there!
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    Reading this far makes me entitled to say something...yeah.

    Confronting strangers is the stupidest idea of manning up if you got something to lose. MFW already met more litigious types willing to take a couple licks on the face than people will admit. The best thing I need to get that sense of being right is to spend more of my free time facing some pricks ugly mug at civil or criminal court. :rolleyes:

    It's funny how people wanted MFW to confront the Mother when some already have shown that they're quick to annoy and have the stubborn stranglehold of thinking they're right after reading some few words (me by the time I'm done....). I hope for MFW the mother's sense of reason wasn't through scathing sarcasm.

    Anyways, even if the country is going to hell, I wouldn't raise my kid with that thought anywhere in mind. Kids are very observant....
     
  15. Mulder

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    Back on topic here...

    My wife and I were at Seaworld in Orlando and as we were walking a 12-14 yr old girl squirted water at us with one of those mister bottles and said "ha ha got you!" Actually she didn't get us but that's not the point.

    I was going to say something but my wife beat me to it. What the hell is wrong with some of these kids today? My mom or dad would have whooped my ass for doing some of the things kids get away with today, just after apologizing to the adult that was affected. Don't see that happening today too often.
     
  16. Master Baiter

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    I am also shocked this hasnt been shipped over to the D&D. I just think it is ridiculous that so many people are piling on MFW. Who cares that he metioned that the kid was black? Does it make what the kid did any different? Does it make the kid any less black? He didnt make a blanket statement saying that all blacks act in this manner. He didnt make any disparaging about the race as a whole. It was a detail to the story. The news reports crimes every day and they almost always state the race of the perpetrator and I dont see anyone screaming and hollering that they are racists.

    As for calling him a p***y, that is just ridiculous. What good would it have done for him to confront the woman. What if she had a boyfriend that she sic'd on him ala the Pizza Store Incident? I'm shocked that more people do not commend him for being a bigger person and turning the other cheek. I'd rather have someone be the bigger MAN and walk away than to cause a scene in and someone possibly get hurt.

    Honestly I think the thread title is fairly appropriate and some of the posters have pretty much proved the thread title correct. There sure seems to be a lot of hot headed people in our country and on this board, hence the reason I rarely watch the news and I do stay out of the D&D. It makes me feel dirty and sick to watch people act in that fashion. A little tolerance would go a long way.

    edit: Now please flame away on my racist comments, I'm sure its coming :rolleyes:
     
  17. rimbaud

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    No need to call it a mistake, I was just trying to make a light hearted rib as opposed to all of the meanness going on. I hope it wasn't taken as such. If not, my apologies.
     
  18. Mr. Brightside

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    Wow, MFW that is some crazy **** you have gone through. If someone tried to sue me for that b.s, I probably would have done something I would have regretted for the next 50 to life.
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    MFW, sorry about your troubles.
     
  20. Oski2005

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    I'm going to D'rail(copyrighted b****es!) this thread and spare us all from any more tension and hurt feelings.

    Here is a picture of a kitten licking a puppy:
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    Oh, and btw, this Bully game looks pretty cool. Incase nobody bothered to read the description, you aren't playing a bully:

    As a troublesome schoolboy, you'll laugh and cringe as you stand up to bullies, get picked on by teachers, play pranks on malicious kids, win or lose the girl, and ultimately learn to navigate the obstacles of the fictitious reform school, Bullworth Academy.

    Reform school, maybe you play a former bully.
     

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