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This country is going to hell

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by MFW2310, Jul 7, 2005.

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  1. MFW2310

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    Just not very experienced with handling kids. But hey, why focus on the problem when you can shoot the messenger?
     
  2. wnes

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    What kind of store was it, is it owned by Black? I don't know if you mentioned they were "black" for any reason.

    Is it possible they (particularly the kid) had just experienced something unpleasant when they confronted people (who looked like you) in a similar situation? Note I am not trying to make "race" an issue here. I assume you're certain the mother was aware of the unruling behavior of her boy but did nothing to admonish him. It's perhaps fruitless to show her the correct way she should raise her kid(s), but I highly doubt she would be rude to you if you tried to talk to her in a calm and respectful manner.

    Regardless I still think you are making generalization basing on isolatated incidents like this. When you say "this country is going to hell", you are suggesting America is the country where future generations are hopelessly rotten.
     
  3. MR. MEOWGI

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    Well, duh. The kid was black...
     
  4. MFW2310

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    See here is the situation. I was in a small convenience store that also sells some grocery. As far as I can tell, that store catered to customers of all races. I was in the store for about 20 minutes and wasn't aware that the mother or the child got into an incident with anybody else.

    No being black isn't an issue. Yes I should have respectfully ask her mother to watch her child's behaviour, which I didn't because I was angry, and as mentioned, because I'm not good with kids.

    As far as the incident go, yes the mother saw it, which I guess is really the reason why it is so frustrating.

    As for generalizing, this isn't one of those "it happened to me once and I couldn't handle it" reactionary things. I think there has been a severe decline in mutual respect among people. The only difference that pushed this over the top for me (as supposed to the dozens of other times something like this happened) is that this is an 11 year old, in which the mother either has no control over, or chooses not to control.

    Race/country has nothing to do with, which is why if you read my original post, it focuses entirely on discipline, which I really believe is missing from both schools and homestead.
     
  5. 3814

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    were you for any reason wearing a white hood with eye holes cut in it to go with the white robe covering your body?
     
  6. MFW2310

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    No but I think T-shirt and khakis sufficiently did the job.

    Let's see... 25 replies and only one poster that didn't make some moronic comment regarding a real issue. Keep up the good work wnes.
     
  7. 3814

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    it's not a real issue, or at least not a broad generalized one - as i've never noticed this kind of thing. i'm sure some people in your generation were assholes as children. get over it and move on with your life - maybe talk to the mother next time. but seriously, if you think this is an issue, just remember things such as "September 11" and "World War __."
     
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    One kid and his mom does not represent all the kids and how they are brought up in this country.
     
  9. Davidoff

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    MFW2310, this is when you know you are getting old.. everyone thinks the same thing one day about a younger generation..
     
  10. fadeaway

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    Why is everyone coming down on MFW2310?? Did he feed poison milk to your kittens or something?? :confused:

    I don't see anything he posted that warrants this automatic backlash against him.
     
  11. insane man

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    i was at a court builing today here in northern virginia and as i was leaving a room there was a teenage (perhaps college student) white kid who came in almost ran me over and mumbling profanities followed by his attorney/father.

    my first thought was hmm poor kid probably had a rough day. perhaps you should have thought that too?

    though i do believe kids need some beatings here and there.
     
  12. Tdogg

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    And what's even sadder, is an adult (the mother), that doesn't reinforce what is an acceptable behavior for her child to portray.

    Had that happened when I was a child, my mother would have apologized to the person I acted out on, then told me what I did was wrong, and probably would have made me apologize for what I did. Then, taken me home and put the belt to my back-side.

    Is violence out there and in everyone's face, yes. But it all starts at home, violence is acceptable to a child if the people that raise them make it acceptable or accessible and do not take the time to distinguish right from wrong.
     
  13. steddinotayto

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    i see undisciplined kids all the time where I work. And you know what, I am pretty sure there were undisciplined kids 10, 20, or even 30 years ago. Are they more prevalent now then before? I probably think so but that doesn't mean the country is going to hell just because some kid slammed a door in your face and you didn't do anything about it. Hey, I sympathize with you. I really do. But if a kid disrespected me like that with his/her parents around, you know damn well I'd tell the parent. I'm not gonna be like "hey, you need to learn how to raise your kids!" because that's rude in itself. Just a "excuse me, you're son/daughter just (fill in dispicable actions here)". I understand you were probably at a lost for words and couldn't confront the parent fast enough, but if there's next time just remember to. It's easy to sit back and say "this country's going to hell" and do nothing about it.
     
  14. 3814

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    this kind of took me from being sarcastic over a little thing to deciding to take a stand against what he sees as an issue:

    "Let's see... 25 replies and only one poster that didn't make some moronic comment regarding a real issue. Keep up the good work wnes."

    just kinda ticked me off - these damn old people and their moronic issues - we're all going to hell because of them.
    ;) (a joke, but one that kind of shows what kind of view he is taking on kids today).
     
  15. fadeaway

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    That's hilarious. You're blaming MFW? It isn't his fault at all.
     
  16. Manny Ramirez

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    Good post. He must have posted something in the D&D that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way because I don't get the backlash, either. :confused:
     
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    Did I blame him? Question is: Did he help the cause? Sure it's another person's child, but that doesn't mean he should just stand there and do nothing and then come back and rant on here. It's not his fault that the kid's a jerk but maybe this isn't the FIRST time the kid's been a jerk and maybe he's done this to a lot of other people...probably the same people that don't say anything to the parent. Hey if he made an attempt and said "ma'am you're child is being rude, etc" and the parent does nothing or yells back at him, then may God help that poor woman. But if you're going to let it that kind of stuff happen and do nothing, you're not exactly helping to better this "damned nation" are you?
     
  18. Deckard

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    Manny, if half the people who allegedly posted some sort of a "backlash" posted in D&D it'd be a hell of a lot more entertaining. I preferred to illustrate another country "going to hell," China, because they seem to be plagued with "sexual idiots." If that ain't goin' to hell, I don't know what is. ;)

    Heck, if I posted why this country is going to hell, in my opinion, this would be in D&D quick. I try not to do that sort of thing, although it can be difficult. This is Hangout, after all. We aren't supposed to "let it all hang out," as it were.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    C'mon fade, they're just proving MF's point that the country is going to hell.
     
  20. Mr. Brightside

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    I believe race is an issue here. An hate crime was committed by the black kid against who I percieve is an white individual.
     

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