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This coach has a problem!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by boby, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. denniscd

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    if van gundy knew nothing about offense, why did his team in his last year put up better offensive numbers than adelman this year and last year? and we would all agree we have better weapons last year and this year...i will tell you why...stereotypes
     
  2. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

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    this is the beginning of adelman's second year with the rockets. give his team time to adjust and find their roles in his offense. look at sacramento with webber and white chocolate. they couldve gone all the way.
     
  3. cadet65

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    Nice excuse.
     
  4. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

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    for real. you gonna compare van gundy during his fourth year with the rockets and adelman barely in his second year? if we dont get out of the first round and make noise in the playoffs this year then we can start blaming the coach (barring injuries). of course if everyone is healthy AND the players all do what theyre told on offense (T-Mac), and we still manage to suck it up then we can start talking about who the next coach will be. hopefully Dunleavy or the return of Rudy T.
     
  5. GMAC

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    Apparently, some people have forgotten how atrocious JVG's coaching was while he was here. He coached us right out of the 1st round (the only time we were FAVORED to win a series).

    Adelman took us to 6 games against that same Utah team, WITHOUT Yao Ming.
     
  6. agentkirb87

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    Last year, for roughly the first third of the season there was a chemistry crisis. I bet if you compared the numbers for the last 2 thirds of the season with JVG's 4th year you would find that it was better.

    This year you have a really small sample size, so I wouldn't call us a horrible offensive team yet. Even though we are heading in that direction.

    I have a hard time "blaming" anyone when we are 7-4, leading the division (when is the last time we've ever lead the division 11 games into the season?), tied for 3rd in the West a game out of 2nd place (again, when is the last time that has been the case 11 games into the season?). What ever happened to "a win is a win". We can't be happy if we lose but play well because a win is a win, but if we are winning, we still can't be happy because we aren't playing well?

    Plus, to be honest, I would almost rather start off with obvious things to improve on (the percentages of the big 3), than start off on fire and then find some intermittent problem that tears the team apart with no time left to put it back together before the playoffs.
     
  7. shakegod

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    Some of you said was true,JVG always keep Yao and Tmac on he court,until he can guarantee we win the game or we quit.But Adelman have something in common with JVG,he always keep someone on the court who is played well.That's why Yao and Artest and Tmac get 35+ time
     
  8. steven_orgy

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    We need JVG back. I believe he could bring us the champion with the present players. During his coaching period in Rockets, we just had two stars and less talented role players. Now we have Ron, Brooks, Landry, Barry. If we have him back, we sure will win the champion.
     
  9. steven_orgy

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    RA should be blamed for Yao and RON's injuries. Only 3 mins left when Yao got injured. It's should be discussed whether or not RA still put Yao on the court since we led by 10+ points and Scola had a great game. While RON got injured 50 seconds before the game ended. ROX will win without doubt. I didn't understand why RA still put RON on the court. What the hell did he want to do? Big three got injured at the same time, which would cause some trouble on the lineup. We should accept the fact that big 3 might get injured, but why don't we let them play less minutes when we gurantee to win the game? If RA still does his work like this, ROX will not get red this season!
     
  10. GATER

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    And Van Gundy pulled McGrady or Yao exactly how many times?

    Sorry, no coach on the planet is going to pull any of his best players in the last 3 minutes of a game that is gradually slipping away. If they've been playing basketball all of their lives, it's on the players to recognize who has the mismatch or the hot hand. At the end of the SAS game, it was Artest that was hot. And Artest is still trying to fit in and won't demand the ball.
     
  11. cadet65

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    I agree with you 100% !
     
  12. kpopy

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    take it easy,man. the bad happens to whoever (Phil, Popovich or others)
    We need a positive mindset here - Rox is becoming better and better :p
     
  13. kpopy

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    people are always Not satisfied with the current owing.
    Yesterday is history, tomorrow is dream and NOW is the gift~
     
  14. killlogan

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    I have a question that I can't help asking you: How old are you, my boy?
     
  15. denniscd

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    oh we can only kill rudy and van gundy on this board not adelman? i agree adelman is a great coach, but he has to help yao be more productive.
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Assuming it is the same Yao....then

    I fully agree with you denniscd....Rick could learn a lot from how JVG used Yao on offense.

    Not on defense, but on offense.

    :D

    DD
     
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    We hired him last year,but what he bring?Not much,we need his Princeton system,so far,how many times we see his system be conducted.Some thing I must acknowledge is when win 22 games in a row,we saw his system,without Yao,this season 22-0 is impossible,we need to do something realtically.Now our offense is much like Jeff VanGundy coaching period.Thus,why we dont have JVG back.We have three good players and a ton of role players,maybe Adelman cant coach when there have star.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is NOT the Princeton system, it has elements of the system, it is more a read and react system, than the Princeton system.

    It is all about watching your defender and countering how he is playing against you....cutting back door etc.

    Something like this:

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    DD
     
  19. agentkirb87

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    I agree with you that he's never going to get taken out, but you don't HAVE to take Tmac or Yao out of the game. All you have to do is call a play, or simply say "move the ball!". Tmacs ego isn't big enough that he's going to just ignore a prominent coach like Adelman, especially if we are winning games.

    It's really that simple. Everytime someone argues that Tmac is ruining this team because he holds the ball too much, I would argue back that Adelman wants him to (or at the very least doesn't care).
     
  20. bullardfan

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    CWebb. nuff said.
     

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