[Thinking Like Morey] Kevin Martin, Kyle Lowry, and the Value of Fouls

Durvasa,

Would you provide us with some sort of scoring per possession stats?

 

We're Houston, we're the Rockets; traditionally we don't get to the line and time keepers forget to run the clock ( Utah, San Antonio ) remember those... Sports Illustrated was reluctant to print a commemorative edition when the Rockets won the first title and after everybody in Houston complained about it they ran 1 edition and just for the city of Houston and neighboring towns..
Bottom Line : We just get very little respect, heck Yao (china) which represents tons of money for this league gets no respect; Yao gets killed and he never gets to the line as he should... Same goes for Shaq, he gets fouled a lot but Shaq dishes out a lot and does not get called for fouls... R.E.S.P.E.C.T

 

Time well spent, as evidenced by this excellent thread. Kudos!

 

is there a stat for say give the players on our team, how often do they foul opponents in general, on the act of shooting, and while in penalty?

 

I'd love to see some sort of comparison between shot blocking and taking charges. A blocked shot can result in a change of posession as well as an intangilbe effect on the other teams efficiency. A charge is also a change of possession, but also gives the other team a foul, which can also lower the other teams efficiency if they think twice about driving the lane or simply have to set a player down do to fouls.

From another point of view, a block shot is often easier to attempt since you don't have to be directly in front of the player to block the shot. However, the attempted block shot can backfire as it can result in your own foul as well as take you out of position for a rebound. A charge is more difficult to accomplish and is more likely to result in your own foul, and definitely puts you out of position for a rebound.

I would guess that you should take a charge when you can. If that oppurtunity isn't there, go for the blocked shot. If that's not possible, block players vision. Lastly, just get ready for a rebound.

Sounds like Shane Battier.

 

read my sig - it tells all

 

In all your blind hatred, have you noticed that the only real difference between last year's AMAZING post defense, and this year's abysmal post defense is Yao? If all you're doing is quantifying a "true defensive center" by the number of blocks he's getting, then you need to stick with your fantasy basketball forums. Letting Yao go in a S&T after all the work Morey has done to acquire assets to build the perfect team AROUND him would be completely asinine. I mean, I don't even understand how you can still keep calling Morey a moron when you've been given AMPLE EVIDENCE to suggest why what he's done with what he's been given is sheer BRILLIANCE. You're either an incredibly annoying troll, the most stubborn person on the planet, or have absolutely ZERO understanding of the game or the business and have no intentions of learning.

 

May I add that when the other team's in the penalty early in a quarter, their defense will become more or less lax to avoid fouling, making it easier to make field goals for other players as well.

 

And will hopefully get the other team's star players into foul trouble late in games, lol.

Great piece of read.

 

14 points out of 14 foul shots. Point proved.

 

nice bump. after seeing tonight's stats, this thread was the first thing i thought of!

 

Hayes+Scola+battier+martin+lowry

where the best drawing forls group happens？

 

HTown57 trying to be durvasa, jr. Nice thread and discussion!

 

excellent thread and good analysis.

for those of you interested, morey's podcast with bill simmons this week is a killer interview for any clutchfan to listen to. among other things, morey talked about the kevin martin acquisition. (http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=4936623&autoplay=1&callsign=ESPNRADIO the 2/22 bs report)

morey loves kevin's ability to draw fouls and help put this team in the bonus - especially late in games. morey also spoke highly of martin and how he raises his level of play against good defensive teams.

i love this statistical side of basketball and i'm really excited about the team morey is building. it is tough to stomach not being a true contender this year, but after listening to the morey/simmons podcast i walked away feeling like: we're in good hands. we have one of the best GMs in sports.

 

Last night made this thread gold. Like I posted during the game (from my iPhone, so I think that was it. darn teenager hogging my PC for homework on a Friday, of all the stupid, idiotic.... well, nevermind), anyway, like I posted during the game, this was a glimpse of the future, and the future is beautiful.