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Things in Iraq = still crap

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  1. rimrocker

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    What's sad is that my father, brother and brother-in-law swear by it. :(
     
  3. Saint Louis

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    Same here, I have family and friends that think Fox News and Rush Limbaugh are the gospel of truth.
     
  4. mc mark

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    Baghdad official who exposed executions flees

    Jonathan Steele
    Thursday March 2, 2006

    Faik Bakir, the director of the Baghdad morgue, has fled Iraq in fear of his life after reporting that more than 7,000 people have been killed by death squads in recent months, the outgoing head of the UN human rights office in Iraq has disclosed.

    "The vast majority of bodies showed signs of summary execution - many with their hands tied behind their back. Some showed evidence of torture, with arms and leg joints broken by electric drills," said John Pace, the Maltese UN official. The killings had been happening long before the bloodshed after last week's bombing of the Shia shrine in Samarra.

    Mr Pace, whose contract in Iraq ended last month, said many killings were carried out by Shia militias linked to the industry ministry run by Bayan Jabr, a leading figure in the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (Sciri).

    Mr Pace said records, supported by photographs, came from Baghdad's forensic institute, which passed them to the UN. The Baghdad morgue has been receiving 700 or more bodies a month. The figures peaked at 1,100 last July - many showing signs of torture.

    Reports of government-sponsored death squads have sparked fear among many prominent Iraqis, prompting a rise in the number leaving the country. Mr Pace said the morgue's director had received death threats after he reported the murders. "He's out of the country now," said Mr Pace, adding that the attribution of the killings to government-linked militias did not come from Dr Bakir.

    "There are other sources for that. Some militias are integrated with the police and wear police uniforms," he said. "The Badr brigade [Sciri's armed wing] are in the police and are mainly the ones doing the killing. They're the most notorious."

    Some Iraqis accuse the Mahdi army militia, linked to the radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, of seizing and killing people. But Mr Pace said: "I'm not as sure of the Mahdi army as I am of the others."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1721366,00.html
     
  5. rimrocker

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    A morgue worker has to leave because he fears for his life? Hard to spin gold out of that.
     
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    Another article mentioning Mr. Pace, this one from the Chron...
    The world is a better place...
     
  7. mc mark

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    my god! This is really getting fuced up! Seems the new government (that hasn't officially formed yet) is about to explode.

    this is bad....

    Iraq's Prime Minister Vows to Fight Ouster]

    By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers
    14 minutes ago

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's prime minister and his radical Shiite backers vowed Thursday to fight a bid by Sunni Arabs and Kurds to oust him, threatening to plunge the country into political turmoil, delay formation of a new government and undercut U.S. plans to begin withdrawing troops this year

    A coalition of Sunni, Kurdish and secular parties formally asked the Shiite bloc Thursday to withdraw its nomination of Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari for another term. The prime minister's adviser, Haider al-Ibadi, insisted the bloc would stick by its candidate.

    Many Sunnis blame al-Jaafari for failing to rein in commandos of the Shiite-led Interior Ministry. And Kurds accuse al-Jaafari of dragging his heels on resolving their claims around the oil-rich city of Kirkuk.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303...qdX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
     
  8. Fatty FatBastard

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    Prime Minister al-Jaafari???

    [​IMG]

    Really?

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  9. mc mark

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    laugh while you can monkey boy
     
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    As of Thursday, March 2, 2006, at least 2,297 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003.

    The British military has reported 103 deaths; Italy, 27; Ukraine, 18; Poland, 17; Bulgaria, 13; Spain, 11; Slovakia, three; Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Netherlands, Thailand, two each; and Hungary, Kazakhstan, Latvia, one death each.
     
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    Hmm... Why British death toll is 1/20 of the U.S.? Why? Were the British just nicer or were they not working as hard?
     
  12. rimrocker

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    It might have something to do with them having substantially less troops on scene.
     
  13. Fatty FatBastard

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    I'm essentially laughing at all of the outrage that has increasingly intensified with all of you, recently. It's fairly pathetic.

    And "monkey boy?" Uhhh, good one?
     
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    7,000 killed by death squads. No concern there.

    Thirty new terrorist organizations have emerged since the September 11, 2001, attacks, outpacing U.S. efforts to crush the threat, said Brig. Gen. Robert L. Caslen, the Pentagon's deputy director for the war on terrorism.
    "We are not killing them faster than they are being created," Gen. Caslen told a gathering at the Woodrow Wilson Center yesterday, warning that the war could take decades to resolve


    No concern there.

    The loyalty of the Bush followers is amazing.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20060301-113323-8165r.htm
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    yes, we shouldn't have any outrage that our govt. which has lied to us, has now helped install a govt. in a country that we were supposed to liberate, which has killed 7,000 folks with their death squads.

    How pathetic that anyone would allow a social concience to play a part in outrage.
     
  16. mc mark

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    geez! I made two references to "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai" yesterday and no one catches them?

    Lame!

    Once again, a movie too hip for its time!

    ;)
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    I caught the money boy reference. That was John Lithgow's finest role, if you asked me.

    But what was the other one? I love that movie, and I can't believe I missed it.
     
  18. mc mark

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    It was in another thread when rimrocker mentioned something about wearing an aluminum foil hat and I used another Lithgow quote from the movie "Home isa where you hang your hat."

    I love that movie!
     
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    Expert on Iraq: 'We're In a Civil War'

    U.S. Officials Deny Violence Has Risen to That Level, but ABC News Analysts See a 'Serious Lack of Realism'

    By JAKE TAPPER

    BAGHDAD, March 5, 2006 — - As Pentagon generals offered optimistic assessments that the sectarian violence in Iraq had dissipated this weekend, other military experts told ABC News that Sunni and Shiite groups in Iraq already are engaged in a civil war, and that the Iraqi government and U.S. military had better accept that fact and adapt accordingly.

    "We're in a civil war now; it's just that not everybody's joined in," said retired Army Maj. Gen. William L. Nash, a former military commander in Bosnia-Herzegovina. "The failure to understand that the civil war is already taking place, just not necessarily at the maximum level, means that our counter measures are inadequate and therefore dangerous to our long-term interest.

    "It's our failure to understand reality that has caused us to be late throughout this experience of the last three years in Iraq," added Nash, who is an ABC News consultant.

    Watch for Jake Tapper's report this evening on "World News Tonight."

    http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=1689688
     
  20. basso

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    hmmm, i saw him on b'way in M Butterfly, so i'd have to disagree...it was peter weller's one shining moment tho.
     

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