Thibodeau still says Mcgrady is a possibility, but shooting is first priority

LOL no one here is comparing your god Dream to Tmac. You're the only person here doing it! Since when did it become a Houston Rockets vs Tmac debate?

Because of course if someone isn't on par with Dream he's obviously ****! C'mon everyone! Let's all make a Brookssucks.com site! Since obviously that little midget WILL NEVER be as good as the NBA greats, past or present. Everyone who likes him is obviously a r****d. A r****d!!!!!!

 

Ok, this might have been said already, but I don't feel like reading through all the posts. Perhaps it has nothing to do with whether or not Tmac can be a facilitator again, or put up numbers the way he used to. Does any team really want that?

Chicago is going to run it's offense through Rose and Boozer. Depending on an oft injured tmac is not a good idea...not in a facilitator role at least. If Tmac is going to have a Grant Hill like comeback, then Tmac should take Grant Hill's approach at it. Was Grant Hill the same player after his injuries? Absolutely not. He was not a diva, he was not dominating the ball, he did not see himself as a star. He was a role player who wanted to fit on the team, not have the team fit to him.

Chicago said that they would sign Tmac if he did well in the workouts and was able to accept a role off the bench. Tmac had to open his mouth to the media and say that he would strive to be a starter again, which seemed like a clear sign that he didn't want to come off the bench.

I think Tmac's best move right now is to go back to Chicago and tell them that playing is more important that his ego. Then commit to working on his shot and defense to try and be the player they want him to be....not the player he used to be. Even if he doesn't do that, he has a rather good chance of being in the rotation on a quality team.

 

Actually, the Houston rockets organization could have handled the situation by fining him after that toronto game. Fine him like 1 million dollars for patent inexcusable sloth and breach of contract. They could have handled the situation better by fining him or suing him for breach of contract, but hey they were still holding on to the belief or banking on the 20 million dollar investment that was Tmac performing his contractual obligations in good faith.

Not only did he quit on his team he blamed his teammates for not passing him the ball and afterwards threw the whole team under the bus by picking LA over the rockets.

 

McGrady's door to Chicago is shut (see article below). He opened up his big fat mouth and fatally bit himself in the behind. He won't go back to the Bulls and say anything because he doesn't operate that way.

I totally agree with the Bulls not giving up Taj Gibson for Rudy. Smart move for them, especially since they may end up getting him anyway. The market for Rudy isn't so hot.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/18798/what-next-for-t-mac

What next for T-Mac?
August, 7, 2010

By Marc Stein

The Chicago Bulls still haven’t flat-out told Tracy McGrady that they aren’t signing him.

Yet you can rest assured that McGrady knows what the Bulls’ forthcoming signing of Keith Bogans means.

One source close to the process told ESPN.com that McGrady indeed understands that the agreement Chicago struck Friday to sign Bogans essentially extinguishes any hope he had of running with the Bulls next season.

The unkind reality for McGrady is that the Bulls, if they add another swingman in their roster overhaul this summer, are still far more likely to trade for Rudy Fernandez than call T-Mac back.

It's been nearly two weeks since McGrady's audition at Chicago’s practice facility, when he appeared to create his own obstacles to landing a Bogans-esque deal by following up the workout with a flurry of comments that suggest he still sees himself on Carlos Boozer's level … when the Bulls were hoping to hear accept-any-role humility.

Then a bigger obstacle got in McGrady's way: Fernandez's increasing availability in Portland.

Fernandez wants a prominent role as much as McGrady does, judging by the 25-year-old’s well-chronicled pining for minutes in Portland. But sources with knowledge of the Bulls’ thinking have maintained for days that they would rather gamble on trying to fit in the Spaniard -- whose 3-point shooting fills what they see as a greater need -- than the two-time scoring champ.

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau hinted at that thinking Friday in a radio interview with ESPN 1000's "Waddle & Silvy Show” in Chicago before TNT’s David Aldridge broke the Bogans news on NBA.com. When asked about McGrady, Thibodeau confirmed that the Bulls hadn’t ruled him out completely but made it clear that acquiring a proven shooter was their priority.

Hours later, Chicago clinched Bogans’ signature, which doesn’t conclusively fill that void … but also doesn’t affect the salary-cap space needed to acquire Fernandez and might just convey to the Blazers that the Bulls aren’t going to keep waiting around.

In one of its proposals to Portland, sources said, Chicago has offered to absorb Fernandez's modest $1.25 million salary for next season with cap space in exchange for a future first-round pick.

Sources say Portland, however, has believed that it can do better in a Fernandez deal and is holding out for more, even though New York also balked at the Blazers' demands this week and elected to sign Roger Mason to a bargain one-year deal at the veteran minimum of $1.4 million.

It’s widely assumed that the Blazers want Taj Gibson back from the Bulls, but sources say Chicago is not about to include Gibson in Fernandez talks. James Johnson is the best young player Chicago has made available.

The Oregonian reported last week that the Knicks and Celtics were the other teams, besides Chicago, chasing Fernandez hardest, but we’ll have to see how choosy Portland intends to be from here.

Far harder to forecast is where McGrady turns now. After the Bulls and Clippers worked him out and then went in different directions -- and with the Miami Heat seemingly out of roster room and thought to be highly hesitant to bring in big names for the LeBron James/Dwyane Wade/Chris Bosh supporting cast -- there are no other known suitors in circulation for T-Mac.

Which is also known as Allen Iverson territory.

 

T-mac got so used to imposing his will on everyone that he didn't realize that if you're someone's guest, it's impolite to impose on your hosts. You might not get invited back.

 

Regardless of team need, a former coach of McGrady putting 2 mid rotation players ahead of him in priority. Thats pretty much all I need to see.


All McGrady has to do is say "Okay I'll come off the bench gladly, whatever coach wants", and he at least gets signed by someone.

 

31 years old and career over, because of his mouth.

Unbelievable

DD

 

Haven't read any pages but I'm sure this thread turned out like every other T-Mac thread on this board.

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Of course he doesn't, a shooter in what Thibs means is someone who can just camp on the 3pt line and knock down catch and shoot shots. Kobe isnt classed as a shooter etc etc.
Mcgrady even in his best days was not considered a shooter because he had a massive all round game.

 

ur quote at the bottom about hakeem seems inaccurate since when he was at university of houston, he was AKEEM not hakeem

 

You say that like it's a bad thing. Posters are here talking like the guy lost it all and is going to live in the streets. Do you think he's stressing out because he can possibly retire at 31 with millions of bucks in the bank? I'm sure he still wants to play and prove himself, but this isn't as tragic as it's being made out to be.

And if his career is over it's because of his condition, not because of his mouth. If you can play you can say whatever you want and still get signed. This guy could have had the personality of hakeem and he'd be int he same spot as he is today. His mouth is an issue, yes, but it's a minor issue considering the fact that he can't jump, run, and is not an above average shooter. It's like a broken down AI and what a broken down Lebron would go through as well. In this league scorers like that can't make a team if they're old or injured unless they're big bodies, good traditional pgs, or shooters.

 

why are you quoting me and talking about "you guys"?. I replied to you before you starting going back and forth with other posters.

And i do get it. What you dont get is how i tried explaining to you how frustration and confusion that comes from dealing with scoliosis can lead you to say and do things that seem inconsistent or lies. I'm trying to point out to you how it's related.

You can bash him all you want for the wya he "handled it" or for "giving up"....but you're just a fa looking at a tv. Meanwhile, there's teammates who actually play with him and interact with him who still stood up for him, hung out with him, and spoke to him, well after all of this happened. If the guys he "quit on' and the guys who were affected by how he "handled it" arent butthurt over it, then why should we be? If a former coach can invite him to try out despite him witnessing tmac "quitting" and how he "handled" things, then why fans still hung up on it?

Yes, there's been specualtion about certain quotes that can be seen as taking hits at tmac, but it's nothing concrete or anything that seems to have strained a friendly relationship. The one guy who's been consistent about it is ron and it's clear their issues were personal more than they were professional.

 

Damn, I didn't know I had to spam the board with hate for every player who is worse than Hakeem Olajuwon.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

Woa, woa, woa, I call BS. T-mac was one of the premier defenders when he was healthy. I think it was do to his length and great lateral quickness.. But whatever the case may be, he sure was one hell of a defender. He would deflect passes, create steals, and block shots. I hate to post videos to make my point.. But this is what he would do..

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In case you didn't know this, it is very rare for NBA players to be anything less than complimentary in public about teammates. If you listened to Dwyane Wade, you would have thought he had Michael Beasley's back. Don't let the lack public blasting McGrady fool you.

Let me add these comments: The Pistons had a saying for him, "Half-man, Half-a-season". Q-Rich ripped McGrady's toughness on more than one occasion. IIRC, even Shane took a surprising shot at McGrady last season.